Re:24/192 Music Downloads and why they make no sense (2012)
by shmerl on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @11:55AM
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I use Opus for music playback for all my archived music. The reason it's not more widespread was opposition of the likes of Apple to free codecs. Today they are losing this, and Opus is making its way even to Apple's systems.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads and why they make no sense (2012)
by byproxy on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @02:04PM
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Is there a particular reason you don't opt for lossless formats (e.g. FLAC) for your music archive? I imagine the only constraint would be space, though storage gets cheaper by the year.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads and why they make no sense (2012)
by shmerl on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @02:48PM
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I use FLAC for storage, and Opus for playback. I.e. in essence I use both. The benefit of lossless is ability to re-encode later to any new codec (Opus-next?) if it will be useful. For playback, transparent Opus is good since it takes less space.
I.e. in practice - in my main archive I use FLAC. On some portable players and etc. I use Opus encoded from that FLAC.
That's why I always try to buy music in FLAC when possible and stores like Bandcamp are great for it.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads and why they make no sense (2012)
by deevious on Thursday March 07, 2019 @01:55AM
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I love opus just as much as I loved musepack and vorbis, the one thing all of them lack to one degree or another is support and hardware acceleration. If I throw an opus file on my Android 8.1 phone, it has no idea what to do with it unless I manually open it with vlc or foobar. For the regular user the support needs to be seamless, otherwise they are not going to bother.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads and why they make no sense (2012)
by ValentineC on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @04:12PM
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I thought for a moment that Spotify uses Opus, but it turns out that they use Vorbis. Wonder why a switch isn't on their roadmap.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads and why they make no sense (2012)
by kingosticks on Thursday March 07, 2019 @04:14AM
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Do they publish their roadmap?
I'd imagine they consider what they have is good enough considering the backwards compatability issue it'd likely introduce.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads and why they make no sense (2012)
by ValentineC on Thursday March 07, 2019 @07:12PM
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They don't publish their roadmap, but there have been threads on their community forums suggesting this, and an official "Not Right Now" response:
https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Music-Use-Opus-C...
It puzzles me that many people don't yet know about Opus. Let me quote the FAQ [3]:
"Does Opus make all those other lossy codecs obsolete?
Yes.
From a technical point of view (loss, delay, bitrates, ...) Opus renders Speex obsolete and should also replace Vorbis and the common proprietary codecs too (e.g. AAC, MP3, ...)."
[1] https://xiph.org/vorbis/
[2] http://www.opus-codec.org/comparison/
[3] https://wiki.xiph.org/OpusFAQ#Does_Opus_make_all_those_other...