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Re:Studying the demise of historic civilisations by pjc50 on Tuesday March 05, 2019 @04:48AM (#19309401)
> The problem was that they did not see other races as people as they saw themselves. They saw their lives and societies and thought of them as savages.

Yes

> religion (which was more unquestionable

No - America was founded as a country on freedom of religion, which is why it ended up with thousands of little groups from a state of polyamorists to some guys who really liked making furniture.

> than say, global warming is today)

Trolling

> extreme version of the modern liberal

Trolling. Also please choose whether Jefferson was an extreme liberal or a conservative prisoner of the prejudices of his time.

> they deserve some credit for their heroic bravery and ideas on liberty

Yes. There was also the question, even at the time, of how well they were going to live up to what they meant on liberty. They wrote "all men are created equal" into the declaration of independence then immediately spent the next 200 years arguing that meant "not all men". Some of the co-signatories were there at the time arguing against slavery, it's just that Jefferson was on the other side of this particular issue.

Re:Studying the demise of historic civilisations by wallace_f on Tuesday March 05, 2019 @05:51AM (#19309685)
Yes, Jefferson wrote into the original draft of the constitution outlawed slavery, but the southern states refused to sign on to that. Historical facts and context like that do not invalidate all the good done by the Founding Fathers. That is my point.

I'm not aware you are rebelling against our government for the atrocities which exist in the world today.

The rest of your post is dismissive of not asinine, and even against HN guidelines.