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Re:One of Wall Street’s Most Popular Trading Strategies Is N... by roenxi on Sunday March 03, 2019 @06:54AM (#19294036)
Allocation of capital is one of the most important roles in society, bar possibly the judicial system and maybe the government legislature. Not the most powerful role, but quite possibly the one that has the biggest practical impact on people's daily lives along with entrepreneurs. We want smart people working on it.

There is a lot to say on the subject of whether the financial system regulation is creating the right incentives. But there isn't really much room to debate that designing trading strategies is a waste of talent.

Re:One of Wall Street’s Most Popular Trading Strategies Is N... by ackbar03 on Sunday March 03, 2019 @07:10AM (#19294097)
Yes, that and improving efficiency of markets, the go to arguments for wall Street types. I used to be a sell-side trader, allocation of capital was the last thing on our minds. It might add value to the economy in the long run but I'm pretty sure it's way too crowded now with little marginal benefit. If we took the underlying technology and man hours used to make something more useful I think the world would be better off. Something is seriously twisted in its current state
Re:One of Wall Street’s Most Popular Trading Strategies Is N... by AznHisoka on Sunday March 03, 2019 @08:04AM (#19294254)
Everyone pisses on quants/traders but the market would be much less liquid if they didnt exist. You couldn’t easily take out millions of dollars out, if there were no eager buyers on the other end. Yes, their intentions are purely greed, but you can’t have liquidity without the arbitragers, traders and speculators.
Re:One of Wall Street’s Most Popular Trading Strategies Is N... by roenxi on Sunday March 03, 2019 @08:02AM (#19294251)
> I used to be a sell-side trader, allocation of capital was the last thing on our minds.

Bit risky telling someone what their job is, but nevertheless I'd suggest you missed the forest for the trees. The profitability of a trading firm is directly linked to their ability to allocate capital in a way the market likes, and someone with great information thinks that hiring lots of smart people achieves their goals more effectively than hiring small numbers of smart people.

> Something is seriously twisted in its current state

100%, but it isn't the concentration of smart people in finance. That is a good thing - better more scheming bankers than lawyers.

Free market capitalism gives capitalists perfect freedom to operate in the sliver of the Venn diagram that connects what is possible with what customers will pay for. If they step outside that, they go bust.

If there is a problem is probably that the US government didn't let enough companies go bankrupt in the aftermath of the 2008 crisis, and the same idiots that were in charge then are still in charge, or their protegees.

Re:One of Wall Street’s Most Popular Trading Strategies Is N... by ackbar03 on Sunday March 03, 2019 @11:16PM (#19298728)
>Bit risky telling someone what their job is

? Because...?

Re:One of Wall Street’s Most Popular Trading Strategies Is N... by danaris on Sunday March 03, 2019 @10:48AM (#19294983)
> Allocation of capital is one of the most important roles in society

Well...sure, but I don't see these people working to allocate capital to benefit society.

On the whole, the financial industry's influence tends to be to allocate capital to benefit the financial industry.

I get that liquidity is important, but it's not important enough that we should be siphoning off huge chunks of the money in the economy to give to these people as thanks for maintaining it. Frankly, that kind of concentration of wealth decreases liquidity and ends up, over the long term, being directly counter to the stated goal.

Re:One of Wall Street’s Most Popular Trading Strategies Is N... by AznHisoka on Sunday March 03, 2019 @07:58AM (#19294232)
If that is the case, then index funds are antagonistic to that goal. Capital gets allocated to bad-performing companies just because they are in an index that is favorable.

Everyone should then actively decide what specific companies they want to put their capital towards. Instead of baskets of indices.

Re:One of Wall Street’s Most Popular Trading Strategies Is N... by osrec on Sunday March 03, 2019 @08:58AM (#19294445)
> But there isn't really much room to debate that designing trading strategies is a waste of talent.

Are you saying it's not a waste of talent?