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Re:Germany's car industry faces a perfect storm by ahartmetz on Saturday March 02, 2019 @03:27AM (#19288267)
There are quite a few good German developers who know enough about the car industry to stay far away from it because it's so broken. As a lowly developer, you can't fix it - you'll just get chewed up.
Re:Germany's car industry faces a perfect storm by jeena on Saturday March 02, 2019 @05:31AM (#19288607)
I've been working in the car industry for 5 years and the last 2 with a big German car manufacturer which gave us a lot of money to set up something on the side which would work better. Once we showed that we probably can do it (after 1,5 years) they started getting interested in the project and that's where the problems started.

Long story short they are forcing us to do things as they always been done even though they asked us to change them in the first place.

Re:Germany's car industry faces a perfect storm by ahartmetz on Saturday March 02, 2019 @05:42AM (#19288637)
That happens all the time. German car companies are buying working companies and messing them up or starting new daughter companies to "do it right this time" but the contagious rot always kills those attempts surprisingly quickly. I guess that is what another poster mentioned as the changes that are currently happening. But it's not helping yet.
Re:Germany's car industry faces a perfect storm by LifeLiverTransp on Saturday March 02, 2019 @12:40PM (#19290149)
EAitis at its finest.
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Re:Germany's car industry faces a perfect storm by ahartmetz on Saturday March 02, 2019 @06:01AM (#19288695)
The problem with those Eastern European developers is not that they are bad developers - they are pretty good value for money in and of themselves. The problem is that they are wrapped up in the structures that are killing German automotive software. They are probably the ones that get hired to implement the crap that architects made up and that """only""" needs implementation, no questions asked. Just write the code.

Good software development just isn't structured like that at all.

Re:Germany's car industry faces a perfect storm by expertentipp on Saturday March 02, 2019 @08:53AM (#19289246)
Can confirm - in many industries regardless whether one works in Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, or Poland, the directory will be German. The difference being in Czechia, Slovakia, and Poland the cost-cutting will be more aggressive and the decision making will be more strictly top-down. Something among the lines "just write this bloody thing, you C/Java/Angular whore".
Re:Germany's car industry faces a perfect storm by jeena on Saturday March 02, 2019 @07:11AM (#19288887)
I can second that.
Re:Germany's car industry faces a perfect storm by AdrianB1 on Saturday March 02, 2019 @07:00AM (#19288850)
No, there is. At least the jobs the Romanian gets are the cheap versions of the ones Germans have and the demand is so great that people with no IT knowledge get employed in projects where they do more wrong than right. The good developers are rare these days (most have already emigrated, the rest are in process) and the "cheap by the dozen" ones are not worth considering.