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Re:Lyft Files S-1 by jonknee on Friday March 01, 2019 @12:17PM (#19282954)
On the other hand, the baseball player will create much more than that in value while Lyft has lost billions of dollars. If someone here is underpaid it's not the Lyft founders.
Re:Lyft Files S-1 by kolbe on Friday March 01, 2019 @01:11PM (#19283661)
Lyft has enriched its investors far more than any baseball player could even dream of. You're just looking at accounting losses. But when this IPOs, early stage investors will have all made billions.
Re:Lyft Files S-1 by Certhas on Friday March 01, 2019 @01:26PM (#19283789)
But that's not creating value. Unless the lottery creates value for people who buy the right tickets.
Re:Lyft Files S-1 by kolbe on Friday March 01, 2019 @01:47PM (#19284009)
The current price is the market's expectation of value throughout the existence of the company. The market believes that these past cash flows are not indicative of the company's future ability to create accounting value. And you may choose to value a growth company by its historical cash flows, but the market doesn't.
Re:Lyft Files S-1 by conanbatt on Saturday March 02, 2019 @12:34PM (#19290123)
The value was created on the company itself, thanks to the early funds of the investors. Value was definitely created..
Re:Lyft Files S-1 by stepanhruda on Friday March 01, 2019 @02:02PM (#19284139)
What value is exactly a baseball player creating? Lyft has provided WAY more value to society over its lifetime.
Re:Lyft Files S-1 by codegoblins on Friday March 01, 2019 @05:22PM (#19285914)
Drawing viewers' eyes to lucrative television timeslots for advertisers, selling tickets to local stadiums, and selling merchandise such as jerseys and figures.
Re:Lyft Files S-1 by ericd on Friday March 01, 2019 @05:36PM (#19286003)
Those are all wealth transfers, though, not really value creation. The only value creation by the baseball players is the entertainment provided (which is definitely not nothing).
Re:Lyft Files S-1 by jpeg_hero on Friday March 01, 2019 @11:00PM (#19287479)
How about getting a massage? “Wealth transfer”? Or “value creation”?
Re:Lyft Files S-1 by ericd on Saturday March 02, 2019 @12:22AM (#19287724)
Value creation, they're fixing/entertaining the customer.
Re:Lyft Files S-1 by lmm on Friday March 01, 2019 @02:24PM (#19284379)
The baseball player brought joy to other humans, which is the whole bottom-line point of the entire economic system.

Lyft has burned piles of investor cash to give people artificially cheap taxi rides; the wealth-transfer is zero-sum and it's actually worse than that because their dumping distorts the real transport market (and exacerbates the negative externalities of cars). You could argue they've done some genuine value creation by being a more efficient taxi dispatcher, but if there was any substance to that then they'd have a profitable business.