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Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by entity345 on Friday March 01, 2019 @03:52AM (#19278913)
Better option regarding both CO2 and immigration, IMHO:

* Global programme to drastically reduce birthrate.

* Global development programme based on good governance and actual results, not just "sending money".

Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by ctack on Friday March 01, 2019 @05:57AM (#19279449)
Global programmes to drastically reduce birthrate already exist. They accomplish it by educating women.
Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by entity345 on Friday March 01, 2019 @09:11AM (#19280707)
Considering the growth of the world's population they don't seem to be accomplishing much...
Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by solotronics on Friday March 01, 2019 @04:04AM (#19278959)
totally agree here

there should be a global program to give welfare payments for those willing to participate in a birth control program

Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by ilovetux on Friday March 01, 2019 @05:07AM (#19279220)
How is this different from eugenics?
Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by adrianN on Friday March 01, 2019 @05:56AM (#19279446)
Unless you believe that poverty is genetic, encouraging the poor not to have children has nothing to do with eugenics.
Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by entity345 on Friday March 01, 2019 @05:14AM (#19279258)
Birth control has nothing to do with eugenics.
Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by oblio on Friday March 01, 2019 @05:15AM (#19279266)
It depends how you do it. Giving money to the poor to not have kids kind of sound like eugenics.

Educating them (especially women), giving them contraceptives, etc., is the positive approach to this, in my opinion.

Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by entity345 on Friday March 01, 2019 @05:19AM (#19279285)
Nothing to do with eugenics. Eugenics is about selection to improve the gene pool.

The issue here is to make those who have a lot of children have less children. Giving money, and contraceptives, and free sterilisation, and education should all be done.

Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by ilovetux on Friday March 01, 2019 @05:52AM (#19279428)
I agree that giving money, contraceptives, free (voluntary) sterilization and education would be a good idea, but to make the money contingent on either sterilization, the use of birth control or even a promise to not have children would have a disproportionate effect on the underprivileged and would lead to the effects of eugenics based on economic station.

Edit: Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Affec...

> Funding of welfare mothers by HEW (Health, Education, and Welfare) covers roughy 90% of cost and doctors are likely to concur with the compulsory sterilization of welfare mothers. Threats to cease welfare occur when women are hesitant to consent.

Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by entity345 on Friday March 01, 2019 @06:16AM (#19279546)
You seem to be looking for imaginary excuses and reasons not to do anything...

If we don't make things happen, education by itself might take 20 years for the first results. We need to change things very quickly. We're already very late and made things worse by improving survival rates without enforcing birth control.

Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by oblio on Friday March 01, 2019 @08:21AM (#19280301)
Well, the thing is, someone has to actually do it. I, for one, don't want to be the one that imposes how many kids someone can have. So knock yourself out if you want to do that ;)
Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by ilovetux on Friday March 01, 2019 @07:06AM (#19279773)
You seem to be looking for imaginary crusades. There are already a number of organizations who are actively helping in effective and thought-out ways. Planned Parenthood is a great organization which provides actual help rather than fear based, reactionary responses.
Re:Cheap renewables won’t stop global warming (2018) by imtringued on Friday March 01, 2019 @09:16AM (#19280749)
I don't understand the point of policing birth control. Just introduce a flat child tax instead of handing out child benefits.