Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by goshx on Thursday February 28, 2019 @03:18PM
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That doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't be investigated.
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Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by jjjensen90 on Thursday February 28, 2019 @03:29PM
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This is an extremely dangerous tendency we have as a society, to throw out the concepts of freedom and due process and justice when children are involved. There's 0 reason to "investigate" someone that leaves a pervy comment on a kid's video, and they're free to have whatever fantasies they want. Anything coming close to investigating someone for something like that is too close to the thought police and sounds like 3rd world Big Brother crap.
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by ceejayoz on Thursday February 28, 2019 @03:21PM
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I doubt a creepy comment is sufficient probable cause to open an investigation, barring other indicators.
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by goshx on Thursday February 28, 2019 @03:26PM
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A google search has been sufficient before. Remember the pressure cooker and backpacks search from a family in New York?
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by ceejayoz on Thursday February 28, 2019 @03:29PM
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A Google search was not sufficient in that case. The guy's employer tipped them off after firing him - it wasn't some sort of automated keyword monitoring at Google.
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/08/governm...
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by goshx on Thursday February 28, 2019 @03:41PM
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The search alone wasn't sufficient, but was enough to start it all. In YouTube's cases, there are plenty of comments that demonstrate someone is a sexual predator. In my view, if someone "tipped them off", it would be the exact same scenario.
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by ceejayoz on Thursday February 28, 2019 @03:45PM
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"A random person on the internet is posting creepy comments" is likely not probable cause, especially as you'd have to convince someone national like the FBI to care without a specific location.
"Someone I know personally is posting creepy comments, and I've always gotten a bad vibe about their interactions with kids" is probably enough to get local cops interested enough to knock on a door.
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by jjjensen90 on Thursday February 28, 2019 @04:32PM
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I hope not. Unless there is evidence of a crime that has occurred or evidence that a crime is planned, they have no business (constitutionally) bothering a citizen based on that kind of tip. This is how lives are ruined when there are no victims.
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by saagarjha on Thursday February 28, 2019 @03:19PM
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For what? They haven't done anything illegal.
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by goshx on Thursday February 28, 2019 @04:03PM
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I just believe there should be no tolerance for pedophiles.
If someone is behaving as a sexual predator online, you ought to suspect that's what they actually are.
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children
by lucb1e on Friday March 01, 2019 @06:33PM
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> no tolerance for pedophiles.
Note that this is different from:
> sexual predator
The former is an ill person; the latter a criminal. Your call for no tolerance for anyone with a certain disease, no matter whether they know it's unacceptable and can cope with suppressing it, is a little too broad in my opinion.