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Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by EGreg on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @10:25AM (#19254983)
That one is actually true. Sugar highs are a thing.
Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by hombre_fatal on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @10:38AM (#19255108)
When I google "sugar high children", everything on the front page points to it being debunked, mainly due to the mid-90s studies.
Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by onemoresoop on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @11:06AM (#19255384)
"Through various experiments over the years, scientists have discovered that no substantial evidence exists to support the claim that sugar causes hyperactivity." (1)

"Nonetheless, other experiments show that sugar may at least influence behavior. Dr. Wesnes conducted a study in which he found that having a large amount of sugar for breakfast led to a severe deterioration of attention span when compared to having no breakfast or eating whole grain cereal. Dr. Tamborlane, also from Yale, reported that children given sugar had higher levels of adrenaline. A possible explanation for this effect is that since sugar is quickly absorbed into the bloodstream, blood sugar rises quickly, which can lead to higher adrenaline levels and thus symptoms similar to those associated with hyperactivity. Furthermore, children with ADHD also tend to have higher levels of insulin." (1)

(1) http://www.yalescientific.org/2010/09/mythbusters-does-sugar...

Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by EGreg on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @02:40PM (#19257614)
Yep just like scientists couldn’t find a link between smoking and anything either. People laughed at the doctor who washed his hands. They said Earth is at most 100 Million years old. And so on.

That was physics and biology and here you are talking about correlation studies??

My comment was designed to stimulate discussion about this exact issue. Not because I really had a strong position. What if studies show one thing and other studies can’t reproduce the effect? What if something IS true despite current studies “debunking” it?

Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by onemoresoop on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @04:27PM (#19258434)
The quote above was an example as such: "Nonetheless, other experiments show that sugar may at least influence behavior. Dr. Wesnes conducted a study in which he found that having a large amount of sugar for breakfast led to a severe deterioration of attention span"
Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by grawprog on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @10:41AM (#19255142)
Tell ya what? Go hang out with some kids after you give them a bunch of sugar. Studies can say one thing, personal experience watching children turn into little demons that make you run all day before they get cranky and crash hard says otherwise.
Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by hombre_fatal on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @10:45AM (#19255194)
It's funny you mention that since here's how the top link (The Guardian) starts off:

> People often get cross when you tell them there's no such thing as a sugar rush. Especially parents. They have witnessed, time and again, their offspring going ape at parties, after mainlining jelly and ice cream.

But let's not get distracted trying to convince me the study is wrong with anecdotes. That's the point: even ubiquitous "common sense" that anyone would swear is right can be debunked.

Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by SketchySeaBeast on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @10:52AM (#19255249)
> They have witnessed, time and again, their offspring going ape at parties, after mainlining jelly and ice cream.

And I feel like there's another explanation for that - the party setting.

Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by Zitrax on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @11:27AM (#19255631)
Indeed. At home i notice no difference at all when my kids eat candy. And at parties they get wild before the candy is handed out.

Also kids are different of course.

Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by grawprog on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @11:09AM (#19255426)
I wasn't saying the study was wrong, it's more it doesn't matter if it is or not. Just try it yourself. Find a kid, give the child some candy, pop, or other high sugar thing and hang out with them for a few hours, then draw your own conclusion.

What does it matter what some study says when every kid i've ever seen get a bunch of sugar acts the same way? Studies mean nothing when you're with kids hyped up on sugar.

And honestly, I don't really eat sugar, when I have some pop or eat candy, I notice the way it makes me feel. It doesn't make me hyper, but it makes me antsy and twitchy.

Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by DanBC on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @11:33AM (#19255710)
> Find a kid, give the child some candy, pop, or other high sugar thing and hang out with them for a few hours, then draw your own conclusion.

I've done this. I didn't notice any difference. I suspect the difference people notice is down to their lack of skill at parenting rather than anything to do with sugar.

Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by emiliobumachar on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @03:06PM (#19257864)
Hypothesis: being around crummy adults leads both to lots of sugar and to bad behavior.
Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by cheeko1234 on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @01:11PM (#19256800)
I've done this numerous times. It's all placebo and literally the point of the original comment.

Things that seems common sense AND you see them happen anecdotally all the time can still be wrong.

Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by seba_dos1 on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @02:30PM (#19257526)
Finding a kid, giving the child some candy, pop, or other high sugar thing and hanging out with them for a few hours is by no means a sensible way to draw any reasonable conclusions. Isn't it pretty obvious?
Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by moosey on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @11:26AM (#19255621)
Or, just put a bunch of kids together and get them playing.
Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by icebraining on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @10:47AM (#19255210)
"Personal experience" can be biased too: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02168088
Re:Poor-quality relationships linked to greater distress tha... by scarejunba on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @10:58AM (#19255290)
Haha, if this was the metric, I'd be an antivaxxer too.