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Re:FastMail loses customers, faces calls to move over anti-e... by PopeDotNinja on Monday February 25, 2019 @12:37AM (#19243269)
ProtonMail? It supposedly has encryption that prevents ProtonMail from reading your email.
Re:FastMail loses customers, faces calls to move over anti-e... by ndnxhs on Monday February 25, 2019 @02:28AM (#19243740)
As long as they never silently introduce a backdoor in to the js app you are running. These new laws are purely to give the legal power for the government to request that.
Re:FastMail loses customers, faces calls to move over anti-e... by mirimir on Monday February 25, 2019 @01:17AM (#19243450)
If you believe that, yes. But that's not really novel. CounterMail had that a decade ago. Tutanota does too.

Using Thunderbird plus Enigmail for GnuPG, I can use any email provider, and be ~certain that they can't read my stuff.

Re:FastMail loses customers, faces calls to move over anti-e... by askmike on Monday February 25, 2019 @02:24AM (#19243725)
> Using Thunderbird plus Enigmail for GnuPG, I can use any email provider, and be ~certain that they can't read my stuff.

Yes but no one can either :( In the last 5 years I received 2 encrypted emails, and thousands of non encrypted emails. The problem with PGP is that almost no one is using it.

Maybe the people you email with do use it though.

Re:FastMail loses customers, faces calls to move over anti-e... by mirimir on Monday February 25, 2019 @02:29AM (#19243744)
As I understand it, ProtonMail basically uses PGP. It just does it in Javascript or whatever.

But whatever. The ability to use GnuPG serves as a filter ;)

Re:FastMail loses customers, faces calls to move over anti-e... by askmike on Monday February 25, 2019 @04:43AM (#19244331)
> As I understand it, ProtonMail basically uses PGP. It just does it in Javascript or whatever.

This means that maybe now the private keys are on your device, at any point in time they can update their frontend javascript code to get your private key and read all your emails.

> The ability to use GnuPG serves as a filter ;)

Yes definitely, I wouldn't get any emails at all anymore. Works great for Inbox Zero I guess.

Re:FastMail loses customers, faces calls to move over anti-e... by mirimir on Monday February 25, 2019 @04:55PM (#19249840)
> This means that maybe now the private keys are on your device, at any point in time they can update their frontend javascript code to get your private key and read all your emails.

That's the risk. By default, the filesystem isn't accessible to Javascript. But here, you've authorized key access for encryption and decryption. I suppose that Thunderbird and Enigmail could be modified to do much the same. But arguably that would be discovered quickly.

Re:FastMail loses customers, faces calls to move over anti-e... by askmike on Wednesday February 27, 2019 @02:58AM (#19261702)
The difference is that Enigmail is maintained by an open source community, Thunderbird by Mozilla. Also the protocol your mail client uses to talk with your email server (POP or IMAP) don't really support the flexibility to send the keys over easily. As opposed to your clientside Protonmail client managed by javascript that can AJAX the keys to the mothership.
Re:FastMail loses customers, faces calls to move over anti-e... by proaralyst on Monday February 25, 2019 @03:55AM (#19244106)
I looked at FastMail and ProtonMail. I ended up going with ProtonMail because they're in Switzerland.