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Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by koolba on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:24PM (#19242282)
On the contrary, make it mandatory with no exemptions. That way rich or poor, we all have skin in the game and suddenly people’s opinions on foreign policy directly impact their sons and daughters.
Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by ndnxhs on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:29PM (#19242315)
Just make all the politicians go to war. See how their decisions change.
Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by peterwwillis on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:34PM (#19242350)
Then you get Israeli politicians. Service is compulsory so they've all got at least an idea how the military works, and the older folks were involved in wars, and therefore ex military or intelligence officers. Some work toward peace and improvements, and some become hard-liners. So, sorry, but it's still hard to pidgeonhole them even if they've been to war.
Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by ekianjo on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:37PM (#19242363)
You know what will happen then? They will never be exposed to actual combat.
Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by geowwy on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:49PM (#19242427)
If society believed it was immoral to start a war unless you're personally exposed to the risks of warfare then there would be outrage every time it happened.

In my opinion any politician calling for war needs needs to at least have a family member fighting in real combat. If I find out they don't then I will happily vote against them, even if it means voting against my ideology.

Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by dllthomas on Sunday February 24, 2019 @11:23PM (#19242902)
> In my opinion any politician calling for war needs needs to at least have a family member fighting in real combat. If I find out they don't then I will happily vote against them, even if it means voting against my ideology.

What if it's a family member they don't like?

Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by ekianjo on Sunday February 24, 2019 @11:17PM (#19242878)
> If I find out they don't then I will happily vote against them,

That would not work because it would work only after the fact. You want to prevent this kind of things from happening BEFORE they are even elected.

Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by geowwy on Sunday February 24, 2019 @11:23PM (#19242901)
That's true but if it's an expectation we all have and violating it comes with social consequences then they will at least think twice before doing it
Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by beatgammit on Sunday February 24, 2019 @10:32PM (#19242663)
Or as System of a Down says:

> Why don't the Presidents fight the war? > Why do they always send the poor?

It's easy to send someone else to die when they're just a number on a report.

Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by whatshisface on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:27PM (#19242304)
That didn't prevent Vietnam.
Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by aethros on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:30PM (#19242321)
Yea because a fuckton of rich white men were able to get their sons deferments. Have you not listened to Fortunate Son? Also women were not in the draft, to the previous commenter's point.
Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by RickSanchez2600 on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:37PM (#19242364)
Women, transgender, non-binary etc should all be included in a draft.
Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by nerflad on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:29PM (#19242314)
It's a nice thought but look at, for example, Donald Trump's deferment to see how it actually plays out for rich people.
Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by maxerickson on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:35PM (#19242355)
How is that an interesting response to "make it mandatory with no exemptions."

You could explain why you are cynical about it happening, but just saying you are cynical about no exemptions is pretty boring.

Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by aiyodev on Sunday February 24, 2019 @09:49PM (#19242420)
So we should force a quadriplegic to join the military? We should force a hemophiliac to crawl under barbed wire? A blind person should have to learn to shoot a rifle?

You said "no exemptions".

Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by dbcurtis on Sunday February 24, 2019 @10:09PM (#19242540)
Only a fraction of military assignments are combat positions. I knew one Viet Nam vet that spent his entire tour in an air conditioned bunker in Saigon hanging tapes on the computer that printed payroll checks.

Another, technically in a combat role, spent his tours in the radio room of navy destroyers banging out Morse code.

The problems you list are mostly surmountable.

Re:Drafting Only Men for the Military Is Unconstitutional, J... by aiyodev on Sunday February 24, 2019 @10:40PM (#19242704)
Someone who enters the military goes through military training. If we're just forcing people to work, it's not military service. It's slavery.