I Hit $115k/Month with a Status Quo Improvement

Re:I Hit $115k/Month with a Status Quo Improvement by ajaygoel on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @03:06PM (#19211473)

The text you're quoting has to do with how we distribute volume, NOT how we enable spammers. High volume campaigns does not equate to spamming. You can send a 10-email campaign that IS spam and a 10,000-email campaign that is NOT spam.

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Re:I Hit $115k/Month with a Status Quo Improvement by AznHisoka on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @04:12PM (#19212036)

I hate this argument. People always resort to this type of argument when they want to divert responsibility. Have you ever heard of how the environment enables certain behaviors?

Supporting a system where people can mass-send emails = enabling spam.

How absurd will you extend this argument? "Oh, yeah, 99% of my customers are spammers, but I'm not the one making them click send! They could've just paid, twiddled their thumbs and not do anything with my product!"

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Re:I Hit $115k/Month with a Status Quo Improvement by ericpauley on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @03:59PM (#19211918)

This is effectively structuring for email. Would it be immoral to sell a system that allows people to bypass money laundering restrictions by automating structuring? I don't see how this is any different.

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Re:I Hit $115k/Month with a Status Quo Improvement by sjg007 on Thursday February 21, 2019 @08:05AM (#19216544)

Structuring email isn’t illegal.

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Re:I Hit $115k/Month with a Status Quo Improvement by onion2k on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @05:23PM (#19212656)

If you found most of the campaigns fell in to the spam category would you shut down the business?

Maybe that's a convenient reason not to check.

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Re:I Hit $115k/Month with a Status Quo Improvement by tomnipotent on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @08:31PM (#19213778)

> High volume campaigns does not equate to spamming

In what instances is high volume not spam when using this service? Given one legitimate use case where a customer isn't better off using a cheap MailChimp account.

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Re:I Hit $115k/Month with a Status Quo Improvement by jimsmart on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @09:55PM (#19214138)

I used to run ops for a mailing list with over 1 million subscribers (all double-opt-in — perhaps you should google that?).

We never had to bother avoiding any of the measures you deliberately subvert, because our mail was all legitimate.

Granted, doing a 'mail run' with that volume took about a week, but whatever.

If your (client's) recipients aren't all double-opt in, then what you're running could very easily be seen as irresponsible (and that's me being polite), no matter how much money it's making.

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Re:I Hit $115k/Month with a Status Quo Improvement by danols on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @04:04PM (#19211964)

It is a spam tool plain & simple. Stop defending yourself and keep counting your money instead. Congratulations on your financial success.

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