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Re:The Tragedy of Systemd [video] by nickik on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:02AM (#19208932)
And yet basically no alternative to systemd was produced by any of those people.
Re:The Tragedy of Systemd [video] by bluejekyll on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:04AM (#19208952)
Does upstart not count as an alternative?
Re:The Tragedy of Systemd [video] by nickik on Thursday February 21, 2019 @04:57AM (#19215767)
Upstart is older then systemd and it was mainly developed by Ubuntu who dropped it. After that is continued to exist as a project but its basically not used anywhere and id didn't continue to develop all that much.
Re:The Tragedy of Systemd [video] by bluejekyll on Friday February 22, 2019 @01:03PM (#19227485)
I didn't mean to imply that it was built as a competitor to systemd, more that it exists as a different alternative. I'm aware of what happened with Ubuntu dropping it, and I think it's a shame, as I like it as a simple response to the problem.
Re:The Tragedy of Systemd [video] by loeg on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @01:54PM (#19210813)
Is upstart better in any way?
Re:The Tragedy of Systemd [video] by sliken on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:42PM (#19214587)
Upstart doesn't include implementations on NTP, DNS, DHCP, or anything that opens a network port. It does however allow parallel boots with dependency analysis for quick boots.

Systemd on the other hand seems to be trying to take over syslog, ntpd, dhcpd, named, and related with generally poorer implementations. Feature creep seems constant with systemd, for no particularly good reason.