Re:Discovering a New Form of Communication in the Brain
by quickthrower2 on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @03:23PM
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Does anyone know, how does the strength of these fields compare to the strength of the field in the brain from a wifi router at a reasonable distance? Why doesn’t all the comms gear mess with our thought processes?
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Re:Discovering a New Form of Communication in the Brain
by buboard on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @04:41PM
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as this study shows, as well as others, electric fields do "mess up" with individual synaptic transmission. nature has evolved action potentials as a reliable way to propagate signals in the presence of the myriad sources of electromagnetic radiation on earth. They can be disrupted by appropriately high stimulation such as with TMS . Most likely, the radiation sources that we use every day, phones computers etc do have some effect in neurotransmission but those random failures are probably too few (and too random) to matter significantly or systematically.
here is a recent review: http://sci-hub.tw/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/arti...
Re:Discovering a New Form of Communication in the Brain
by tbenst on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @08:26PM
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Neuroscience PhD student here. The skull acts as a low-pass filter. EEG recordings are typically low pass filtered at 70Hz or lower for example. This is why you can’t decode eg speech from a EEG: the neural encoding is at a higher frequency band than can be recorded. Even though the signal is much stronger, digital comms equipment is orders of magnitude higher in frequency and does not penetrate the skull well.
Re:Discovering a New Form of Communication in the Brain
by est31 on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @09:21PM
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What about the radio signal used for MRI imaging, is it blocked by the skull as well? Or is it just strong enough to be able to penetrate the skull?
Re:Discovering a New Form of Communication in the Brain
by tbenst on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @09:37PM
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fMRIs use a crazy strong magnetic field—typically >= 3 Tesla. The signal that is measured is not electrical but rather the blood oxygen level. Effectively, this is a correlate of the metabolic expenditure of nearby neurons. Wass it is also like a low-pass filter except here it’s more like 0.5 Hz or slower. On the plus, you get much improved spatial resolution
Re:Discovering a New Form of Communication in the Brain
by est31 on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @11:25PM
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MRIs use two magnetic fields, a static one and a dynamic one. And they use a radio signal according to the larmor frequency to excite the spin of the atoms. I was wondering about that radio signal component.
Re:Discovering a New Form of Communication in the Brain
by Zenst on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @03:42PM
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I can't say with 100% certainty that it would have no effect, but the following may be of use:
Frequency of Brain Waves
State Frequency range State of mind
Delta 0.5Hz–4Hz Deep sleep
Theta 4Hz–8Hz Drowsiness (also first stage of sleep)
Alpha 8Hz–14Hz Relaxed but alert
Beta 14Hz–30Hz Highly alert and focused
Re:Discovering a New Form of Communication in the Brain
by avaidyam on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @04:07PM
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This has very little relevance to the topic at hand as these refer to electroencephalogram measurements taken through a skin (scalp) patch and conductive gel.