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Re:Jeff Bezos at YC Startup School 2008 [video] by whoisjuan on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @12:44PM (#19200969)
I believe the cloud computing vision came from Andy Jassy. In fact he wrote the original six pager for AWS.

Equally impressive since Jassy isn't really a technologist either.

Re:Jeff Bezos at YC Startup School 2008 [video] by josh2600 on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @01:04PM (#19201174)
I hate this language of “so and so isn’t a technologist”. You don’t need to understand how a compiler works or grok segfaults to see the future.

It’s obvious if you’re running a big data center yourself that you’d rather pay someone else to do that, it’s just that no one wanted to take on that operational burden because it’s a pain. It doesn’t take a technologist to realize that arbitraging pain is where you make money. Everything after that is execution.

There are plenty of people who see the future who aren’t coders, they just usually can’t execute.

Re:Jeff Bezos at YC Startup School 2008 [video] by whoisjuan on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @01:47PM (#19201592)
I disagree with this. The vision wasn't a simple economic statement on why "we should rent out our unused server capacity". It was vastly more complex than that. It included technical details on how it should be approached and how to leverage and scale their existing infrastructure. It also laid down the ground for EC2 and S3 as foundational services.

Perhaps my error was saying that Jassy isn't a technologist. He is 100% a technologist and has an incredible ability to absorb and understand very complex technical topics. He just isn't a technologist by training or by trade. He simply has an innate technical ability to such extent that his first job at Amazon was being a technical liaison to Jeff Bezos.

Re:Jeff Bezos at YC Startup School 2008 [video] by StreamBright on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @03:08PM (#19202304)
Also VPC networking + patents show how advanced these guys are.
Re:Jeff Bezos at YC Startup School 2008 [video] by bobl on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @03:22PM (#19202423)
I think the confusion is largely between computer science, information systems, system sciences and management. Which are overlapping fields, but not necessarily practiced as such.
Re:Jeff Bezos at YC Startup School 2008 [video] by scottlocklin on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @01:21PM (#19201358)
Yeah, but it's hard to identify those people until their useful business lifespan is half over. Technologists are at least assumed to have some idea of the possibilities; plenty of "visionaries" come up with unworkable visions that we conveniently forget about in hindsight, because they were bad visions of the future.
Re:Jeff Bezos at YC Startup School 2008 [video] by onetimemanytime on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @02:31PM (#19201969)
>>"I believe the cloud computing vision came from Andy Jassy...Equally impressive since Jassy isn't really a technologist either."

And it shows that he's not a technologist. No plan B for when it rains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2AZAxBQAo

(to be fair 51% of US people https://www.businessinsider.com/people-think-stormy-weather-... believe that too)

;)

Re:Jeff Bezos at YC Startup School 2008 [video] by neom on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @01:07PM (#19201207)
Interesting, Sean O Sullivan who coined the phrase cloud, was a business analyst at compaq.