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Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by pault on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @10:15AM (#19199461)
Careful with those fake chargers. They're known to catch fire.
Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by amluto on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @10:20AM (#19199497)
And shock you or destroy your equipment. A lot of what makes real (UL/ETL listed) chargers expensive is making sure that line voltage stays adequately separated from the low voltage side.
Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by Crosseye_Jack on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @10:34AM (#19199602)
I would add "In a small space" Making an larger power supply that keeps the high and low sides adequately separated is pretty easy and cheap as long as you stick to genuine components.

But that then leads onto the whole fake component issue. For example the component will be a optocoupler but the dirt cheap knock off supply may not be using the same level of quality or a knock off component as those found in genuine power supplies which _could_ create a High to Low voltage path if that part failed.

Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @11:12AM (#19199934)
> A lot of what makes real (UL/ETL listed) chargers expensive is making sure that line voltage stays adequately separated from the low voltage side.

Even a very cheap and simplified design can do that. I wouldn't say "a lot" at all, maybe a few percent of the cost at most. It's a corner that could possibly be cut, but it's not one of the bigger corners.

Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by kens on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @12:21PM (#19200707)
I've done a lot of charger teardowns, and very cheap chargers always violate UL safety rules. It's a combination of cost (e.g. triple-insulated transformers), it's hard to fit clearance distances into a small charger, sloppy manufacturing, and they don't seem to even try.
Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by microtherion on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @12:46PM (#19200982)
I respect your superior expertise, of course, but looking through another site that has done systematic teardowns and measurements (https://lygte-info.dk/info/ChargerIndex%20UK.html), it appears to me that this might be too categorical a statement. While counterfeit chargers almost always seem to be dangerous, there seem to be some Chinese brands which produce quite respectable chargers, while still being fairly inexpensive.
Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by jdietrich on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @01:58PM (#19201707)
The point is that you don't know. A legitimate branded charger will have been tested in a certified test lab, while an off-brand or counterfeit charge is likely to have a counterfeit UL mark. It might be perfectly safe or it might be a complete deathtrap, because nobody has actually tested it for compliance.
Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by joshu on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @01:25PM (#19201395)
I need a bunch of chargers for a sensor network (Right now using Wemos D1 Mini boards). Any advice on optimizing for price without compromising on safety? I don't trust the sellers that sell $2 chargers...
Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by jdietrich on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @02:03PM (#19201752)
Anker, Aukey and Blitzwolf make reasonably priced and high quality chargers.
Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by taivare on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @12:08PM (#19200542)
This summer I, had a dehumidifier plugged in with a 3-prong connector . . good thing I, checked it shortly after I started the unit ,the adapter was very/warm . . a short in a cheap adapter . . went to electric supply store and made sure I got a high quality UL rated brand.
Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by behringer on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @11:53AM (#19200367)
There was a kid in the news recently who was electrocuted to death because of their fake charger.

https://www.health.com/home/cell-phone-electrocution

Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by wyldfire on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @01:59PM (#19201719)
That story looks bogus. Snopes [1] says:

> Neither Sinar Harian nor its English-language peer the New Strait Times asserted that the youngster was electrocuted by the earphones he was wearing, but that was the conclusion reached by a number of international publications, including widely-read U.S.-based Vice and Teen Vogue, both of whom aggregated the story.

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> As an emergency room doctor, Uren& stopped short of calling the notion impossible because “I have seen some strange things in my career thus far,” but he added the story that the teen died from being electrocuted by earbuds “strains credibility.”

[1] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/electrocuted-by-earphones/

Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by behringer on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @03:45PM (#19202604)
There's been multiple reports of people dying through headphones. Maybe they're all bogus, but considering an ER doctor presumably knows nothing about electronics, I'll disregard his opinion. Instead I'll listen to what an electronics engineer thinks about counterfeit chargers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-b9k-0KfE

Re:Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Compute... by hnick on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @07:41PM (#19204556)
Here's a high profile case from Australia a few years ago.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/store-which...