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Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by skh on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:16AM (#19162433)
Why does a 13% tax to California bother you if a 13 percentage point increase in tax to some other entity doesn’t? Is it dislike of California? Dislike of state taxes?

This reminds me of an experiment I read in - I think - Nudge. A random group of people were given the scenario of being at a store and about to buy a box of chocolate for $10. Just before they purchase it they find out they can buy it at a store a few blocks away for $5. Most said they would go to the other store.

Another group of random people were asked the same scenario but with a tuxedo costing $1500. The competitor store a few blocks alway sold the tuxedo for $1495. Most said they would not go to the other store for just a $5 decrease in cost.

Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by panzagl on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:19AM (#19162472)
He doesn't live in California so would see no benefit from the CA tax, while he theoretically would from a Fed increase.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by IvyMike on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:32AM (#19162589)
> would see no benefit from the CA tax

Well, no benefit except for the 70% of his time he spends there.

Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by ryandrake on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:43AM (#19162698)
But, what benefit is he getting during his temporary stays there that is worth anything close to the 13% they're taking?

California's budget is about 35% health care (his doctor is probably back in Texas), 20% education (his kids if he has any go to school in Texas), and about 20% to pensions for state workers, which he obviously derives no benefit from. So how do you justify taxing someone who doesn't live here based on the "benefits" they receive?

Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by IvyMike on Thursday February 14, 2019 @11:35AM (#19163190)
> what benefit is he getting during his temporary stays there that is worth anything close to the 13% they're taking?

Things that keep people healthier and smarter, and provide infrastructure and livable wages, do in fact benefit people in the state, resident or not.

I mean, if he's in the 13% marginal tax bracket, that means he's making $1M+ a year. ( https://www.tax-brackets.org/californiataxtable ) The fact that California has such jobs while other states don't have as many is at least partially because the state provides an environment in which such jobs can exist.

Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by vidarh on Thursday February 14, 2019 @11:09AM (#19162951)
If he feels he's not getting sufficient benefit, because of a belief he doesn't live there, he's of course free to choose not to work there.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by IvyMike on Thursday February 14, 2019 @11:44AM (#19163274)
He's already stated that he's not going to take another $1M+ job in California again. I wish him the best of luck.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by skh on Thursday February 14, 2019 @11:09AM (#19162953)
He doesn’t benefit from state workers in California? Without those workers the streets would be worse than what they are now. There would be fewer police and a non-functioning judicial system. Certainly his work benefits from a governmental entity that handles contract law disputes. The workers of the company that he works at benefit from state employees. Would the job exist if those workers didn’t exist?
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by CompanionCuuube on Thursday February 14, 2019 @11:30AM (#19163151)
True, if he doesn't really care about his family in TX then he should have no reason to care about his taxes not going to benefit them.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by lakisy on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @01:11PM (#19256799)
He may not live in California but he WORKS in California.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by sundaeofshock on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:40AM (#19162674)
He is in California five days a week, including at least 4 nights of sleep. He benefits from the airports, roads, police and fire protection, water, and all other services. He also receives such a high income due to the fact that his employer is based in California.

Why shouldn’t he contribute to the state that is providing him with income and the services to support that income?

Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by skh on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:28AM (#19162552)
I see now. I was focusing on not being too upset at 13% being taken in one scenario but not being upset if taken in another scenario.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by mleo on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:49AM (#19162760)
Other than flying into a California airport, traveling on public streets, having suppport of local police, fire and other services while in California. That said, there are some services taxes go to that he would not receive benefit from. So paying the same tax rates as a resident does not make as much sense.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by ohithereyou on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:36AM (#19162626)
Not the grandparent poster, but a 13% increase in Federal income tax would apply to everyone in the country, regardless of where they live, and therefore would be fair. Punishing people who don't live in your state (only commute there for work and have an actual, bona fide residence elsewhere) is not fair.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by skh on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:41AM (#19162682)
Income gets taxed on where you earn it. It’s been that way for a very long time. This applies to everyone. Don’t see how it’s unfair. I’m certain OP knew this when taking the contract to work in California.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by mandevil on Tuesday February 19, 2019 @12:54PM (#19201074)
It famously applies to sportsball players as well: if you are an NBA player you pay Canadian taxes on the game check for all games in Toronto, and California taxes on your games in LA/SAC/OAK (and there are extra jock taxes and the like, but we don't need to go into that). A typical NBA player will file over 20 different tax returns for a single season.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by EpicEng on Thursday February 14, 2019 @01:02PM (#19164153)
That's not true. I was a resident of TX for two years while still working for my SD company was not subject to CA state tax. If you're not present you don't pay.
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by skh on Thursday February 14, 2019 @01:14PM (#19164273)
Right. That's what I said. You get taxed where you earn the money. If you aren't in California when you earn the money then you don't pay California tax. If you are in California when you earn the money then you pay California tax. (I know there are reciprocity laws among some of the states but there aren't between California and Texas.)
Re:“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid ... by EpicEng on Thursday February 14, 2019 @02:57PM (#19165392)
ok I misunderstood what you meant by "where [you earn it]". Still though, things get more complicated when you have residence in state A and spend a significant portion of your time working in state B. You're paying taxes which go to other people, regardless of whether or not you benefit partially. My kids don't get better schools, my family doesn't get better healthcare, etc.