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Re:Making a Menger sponge in stained glass by michaelbuckbee on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:00AM (#19162296)
My mom made some really amazing stained glass projects when I was a kid and I've always been fascinated by it. Recently I had the thought that the process could be singnificantly sped by using CNC/Waterjets or something else to help with the really time consuming cutting and fitting aspects.

I've found a few instances where people have used CNC cutters with a diamond drag bit to help score the glass, and a few industrial glass cutting applications of similar to stained glass size items, but no real start to finish projects.

This is an interesting industrial example as they were able to produce a stained glass piece that is made almost entirely from curved pieces (a near impossibility with traditional scoring and breaking) - https://semyx.com/solutions/waterjet-applications/glass/

Industrial waterjet glass cutting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_qMKKwvzz8

Re:Making a Menger sponge in stained glass by dfc on Thursday February 14, 2019 @12:05PM (#19163509)
> almost entirely from curved pieces (a near impossibility with traditional scoring and breaking)

I was a little surprised when I read this because it means the people at my local makerspace are magicians. There are tons of examples of curved stained glass as well as a lot of howtos on how to do it. The came glasswork page on wikipedia is full of stained glass with curves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Came_glasswork

What am I missing?

Re:Making a Menger sponge in stained glass by joshmillard on Thursday February 14, 2019 @01:43PM (#19164561)
I'll agree that "a near impossibility" feels like a real big overstatement; curves are very doable and common in hand-cut glass. That's true even in my first piece, under discussion, which is chock full of curves. I talk a bit in the process diary about getting comfortable with doing curved breaks after being over-cautious with my first few bits of glass.

That said, I can see how a CNC approach could help with the speed of the process; shallow/simple curves are easy enough to do reliably, but deeper, more complex, and significantly concave curves require additional effort and planning, potentially a lot of manual work with grozing pilers to break out a concavity, and additional grinding to finish out the shape.

So being able to turn a machine process to some of those cuts would save a lot of manual effort and potentially get you right up to the final polish-grind stage in one go, which certainly sounds attractive for some kinds of design.

Re:Making a Menger sponge in stained glass by Gibbon1 on Thursday February 14, 2019 @12:39PM (#19163883)
What you're missing is glass grinders (router) and band saws. Grinders use diamond abrasive bits and flood cooling. Glass bandsaws same deal. With those you can shape flat pieces any shape you want.
Re:Making a Menger sponge in stained glass by michaelbuckbee on Thursday February 14, 2019 @01:19PM (#19164322)
I had never heard of glass bandsaws before, but this looks amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyqfO7GdyJ0
Re:Making a Menger sponge in stained glass by dfc on Thursday February 14, 2019 @09:18PM (#19167961)
But you can also cut curved glass with traditional glass scoring? And this has been so for a long time.
Re:Making a Menger sponge in stained glass by Gibbon1 on Friday February 15, 2019 @05:41PM (#19175415)
I tried that a couple of times, can be done. Takes skill I don't really have.
Re:Making a Menger sponge in stained glass by legohead on Thursday February 14, 2019 @01:00PM (#19164126)
I'd imagine the cutting glass part is a major draw to this hobby. That and the soldering looks like the fun part to me.