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Re:Amazon in Its Prime: Doubles Profits, Pays $0 in Federal ... by dragonwriter on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @04:16PM (#19157095)
> You can't take money out of a corporation without it being taxed as income?

There's a lot of ways (though there are limits) you can derive personal benefit through things that look like corporate expenses but not personal income, and so are not taxed to you or the corporation; these aren't even constrained by corporate taxes.

But, back to the point, absent corporate taxes, you can use corporate retained earnings as a perpetual tax structuring vehicle by choosing to extract and realize income from the corporation when most convenient for you, as well as enjoying any personal benefits tax free that you can slide by as business expenses. It's that permanent deferment piggy bank,not the more limited tax free benefit extraction, that makes it a tax shelter.

And given the high threshold at which estate tax kicks in, this is potentially a multigenerational tax shelter.

Corporate income tax (which is really a retained earnings tax, because expenses are deducted) shuts down the corporation as tax shelter maneuver.

Re:Amazon in Its Prime: Doubles Profits, Pays $0 in Federal ... by nightski on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @04:25PM (#19157190)
Sure, but how is that different than other investments such as stocks or bonds?

Claiming personal expenses as business expenses is slippery, we are in illegal territory here.

Re:Amazon in Its Prime: Doubles Profits, Pays $0 in Federal ... by dragonwriter on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @04:59PM (#19157513)
> Sure, but how is that different than other investments such as stocks or bonds?

Since stocks are how one owns a corporation, it's literally exactly the same as stocks, which are not an “other investment”.

Of course, there is a manifest difference between controlling enough stock that one determines, among other things, if, when, and how much a corporation distributes back to shareholders and, well, not controlling that much. But the same issue, in principal, exists with shareholders collectively as with a single shareholder individually, though coordinated action becomes harder with larger numbers.