Whitespace killed an enterprise app

Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by nafey on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @11:58AM (#19154473)

Not to forget amazon.com. I am actually in awe of their boldness in completely ignoring UI design trends.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by guelo on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @03:38PM (#19156731)

Amazon has purposefully broken their search and navigation, but probably in an anti-consumer metric-driven way instead of designer-driven.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by nerpderp82 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @11:00PM (#19159511)

Ebay is the pinnacle of broken search and navigation! They should be winning awards, industry accolades, Webbies, the works!

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by maxxxxx on Thursday February 14, 2019 @08:56AM (#19161849)

I find eBay search more predictable than amazon. When I use amazon I feel that they show to me what they think I should get instead of what I want.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by nerpderp82 on Friday February 15, 2019 @04:43PM (#19175001)

Ebay removed substring search years ago, and this basically collapsed a whole bunch of industries that were using Ebay as their marketplace. Think hundreds of thousands of similar part numbers. This is why you see pages of part numbers blasted over the listing details.

Ebay's one job is to connect buyers and sellers and they fail miserably at that.

Not even a local minimum, a global minimum. Not a platform, a gated swamp.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by sonnyblarney on Thursday February 14, 2019 @08:36AM (#19161716)

Yes, both Amazon and EBay are bad examples.

They are old-school because they are lazy about it, not because something is already optimized.

Whenever I hear about how great a Amazon is as a company, I just do a single search and am dumbfounded.

Example:

If you type the name of a product - even when it is in their catalogue - it may not come up.

Search for 'mousr' on Amazon and you only see PC mouses.

The only way you can get to the mousr product is by typing the company name.

It's ridiculous.

Tip of the iceberg.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by darpa_escapee on Thursday February 14, 2019 @12:16PM (#19163631)

I can sort by price on eBay. On Amazon, I have to jump through a bunch of hoops to finally be able to sort by price, and the results I get are far from exhaustive.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by nine_k on Thursday February 14, 2019 @07:27PM (#19167469)

I find eBay search pretty fine for my purposes. They could allow for more fine-gained structured descriptions, though.

Amazon search is in comparison much more... approximate.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by degenerate on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @01:12PM (#19155172)

I think that has a lot to do with Bezos saying "no" when it matters, like Jobs did at Apple.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by jmcqk6 on Thursday February 14, 2019 @02:38PM (#19165174)

Amazon's interface is pretty bad, though, especially in the video and kindle areas. I know I'm constantly frustrated using the site, and as far as I can tell, they don't appear to be very interested in reducing user's pain.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by trhway on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @02:23PM (#19155916)

they probably follow the money instead of trends.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by komali2 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @08:46PM (#19158986)

Well, minus their shit video streaming site, I agree.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by tenaciousDaniel on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @11:32AM (#19154254)

Yes exactly. CL is probably my favorite website on the internet, for the sheer reason that they have virtually not changed at all since they first launched over 10 years ago. It's fairly incredible. I can't think of another website that has done that.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by godelski on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @07:25PM (#19158539)

> I can't think of another website that has done that.

https://news.ycombinator.com

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by aidenn0 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @11:35AM (#19154299)

http://rinkworks.com/

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by sevensor on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @12:04PM (#19154542)

This still exists?! It's still being updated?!?! So much more content than when I last checked it, which would have been 2004 or so. My faith in the internet is restored.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by tenaciousDaniel on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @11:42AM (#19154358)

holy shit

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by rpeden on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @02:26PM (#19155944)

I don't think the Berkshire Hathaway site has changed much:

http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by collinmanderson on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:50AM (#19162765)

Amazing

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by combatentropy on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @04:41PM (#19157334)

> I can't think of another website that has done that.

Hmm, I'll give you a hint. You're looking at it.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by stingraycharles on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @12:49PM (#19154919)

CL is only ten years old? I always figured it was from the 90s — maybe a bias originating from the design.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by m741 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @01:05PM (#19155077)

It's over 20 years old, it launched in 1996. Time flies.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by tenaciousDaniel on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @03:39PM (#19156751)

oh wow, I stand corrected. I always thought it was 10 years old because I discovered it around 2008. Sheesh.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by int_19h on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @09:20PM (#19159132)

Remember Windows XP?

Fun fact: we're further away from its first release (2001), than it was from Windows 1.0 (1985).

Remember Windows 7?

We're further away from its first release (2009), than it was from XP.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by Splines on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @11:31PM (#19159635)

Win7 certainly has some rough edges in retrospect, but I occasionally interact with old systems and so many things are so much snappier. I'm sure the modern frameworks in Win10 allow for "new experiences" but the plain old desktop experience was well served by Win7.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by vidarh on Thursday February 14, 2019 @06:32AM (#19161119)

And those of us who do remember Windows 1.0 (not using it, though, but I do remember the ads), are probably mostly closer to retirement age than to the start of our careers... I feel old now.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by maxxxxx on Thursday February 14, 2019 @08:58AM (#19161870)

Craigslist was a true innovation when it started.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by dfxm12 on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:18AM (#19162453)

Craigslist is _the_ case study on how an ugly UI can survive over a long timeline.

I wouldn't call the CL UI ugly. It's certainly not beautiful, but I'm not sure how it could be described as ugly. There's something in between, right?

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by nine_k on Thursday February 14, 2019 @07:29PM (#19167491)

It's not aesthetically polished, but it's well though-out. So it works.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by dalyons on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @11:44AM (#19154370)

I think craigslist survives _despite_ its ugly UI just because of market lock-in/inertia. the ui is awful from a utility/ux, pov - it’s limited and hard to shop/browse with.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by papa_bear on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @07:37PM (#19158616)

Definitely - there used to be a bunch of sites that scraped craigslist and put their listings into more browse-able formats (e.g. Padmapper), but once they got too popular, CL started sending C&Ds and filing lawsuits.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by guitarbill on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @12:00PM (#19154501)

Amazon's website comes to mind, also

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by richjdsmith on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:55AM (#19160986)

Wikipedia would make this list as well.

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by dylan604 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @11:19PM (#19159582)

apod.nasa.gov is the classic example for me

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Re:Whitespace killed an enterprise app by dleslie on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @11:26PM (#19159605)

The Drudge Report is another one.

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