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Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by tdavis on Thursday May 15, 2008 @09:30PM (#191299)
I recently reached the end of my 10-year plan and let me tell you, it's more like "teach yourself programming in a lifetime" because if there's anything I've learned it's that there's always more to learn.

And if you don't have any "problems" anymore, you're not trying too hard... or you've solved every problem there is to solve.

Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by j2d2 on Friday May 16, 2008 @05:04PM (#192232)
You mean... learning happens the whole time you're alive?!
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by auston on Thursday May 15, 2008 @09:22PM (#191291)
Cheater.. appending variables to be allowed to submit!
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by demallien on Friday May 16, 2008 @04:28AM (#191602)
That's not cheating, that's hacking the system... Maybe this is actually a really clever meta-post :-)
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by aleo on Thursday May 15, 2008 @08:31PM (#191245)
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by henning on Thursday May 15, 2008 @09:11PM (#191283)
I don't think users should periodically repost a classic just because its message bears repeating.

I'm 23 years old. I started programming when I was 13. All my problems in software now revolve around people issues.

Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by hugh on Friday May 16, 2008 @03:58PM (#192180)
I've been programming for well over ten years. I found it hard at first, but now I find it really really hard. By the time I retire, hopefully it will be damn near impossible.
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by axod on Friday May 16, 2008 @08:30AM (#191709)
Doesn't sound much fun. If you've solved everything technically, what else is left to do :/ Maybe you should find some harder problems to work on.
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by scott_s on Friday May 16, 2008 @10:01AM (#191770)
I don't see a problem with it when it's a response to stories like "learn how to hack in nine months."
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by evdawg on Thursday May 15, 2008 @09:21PM (#191289)
The best part is that it was old back then, too.
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by gabriel on Thursday May 15, 2008 @11:21PM (#191393)
Even though an old and previously posted article, is anyone listening? Or maybe it's a question of beliefs?

Because I think another aspect to look at this article with is that learning how to hack is fine, though start-ups should be focusing on the toughest problems, and ignoring history (how things got to where they are today) won't help anyone.

All of you working on the next social platform better beware of the history.

Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by Tichy on Friday May 16, 2008 @02:51AM (#191536)
Listening to what, exactly? "I suck, because I haven't programmed for 10 years"? What exactly is the message here?
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by gabriel on Friday May 16, 2008 @02:59AM (#191546)
My message is that it's one thing to learn how to hack, but another part of it is learning why hacking is the way it is in order to figure out what to work on today.

Some things change fast, others don't. Most don't take the time to understand this--the best will.

Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by aaronblohowiak on Friday May 16, 2008 @05:14AM (#191617)
when you've programmed for 10 years, how much further do you hope to be than you are now?
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by Tichy on Friday May 16, 2008 @07:24AM (#191676)
I have actually programmed for more than 10 years. My current impression is that I will probably never become a specialist for anything and will just have to make up things on the go, because technology changes so fast.

Maybe I have acquired some kind of taste, but then I always think about the many successful PHP projects out there (PHP is horrible in my opinion). So maybe even that "taste" is overrated. Just doing it seems to be all that counts.

Another thing is that I somehow try to optimize for the changing demands, and try to become faster at picking up stuff. I try to make it seem normal to pick up a new technology, rather than a reluctant effort. Not sure if it is the right way to go, though, and I also don't have a system for it.

Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by raganwald on Friday May 16, 2008 @08:12AM (#191695)
Should you invest ten years in (a) becoming a better programmer? Or in (b) learning how to manage the people side of things? Or in (c) discovering what kinds of problems are worth solving?

How about (d) all of the above, making this "necessary but not sufficient"?

Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by mojuba on Friday May 16, 2008 @08:43PM (#192360)
I'd invest 10 more years into enjoying programming in the first place. (Although I've already invested 20 into it.)
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by hernan7 on Friday May 16, 2008 @03:14PM (#192128)
You would need more than 10 years for that...
Re:Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years by schtog on Friday May 16, 2008 @03:05AM (#191550)
is norvig born in denmark or he just has danish heritage? couldnt find out via wikipedia or his site but he wrote "...my fellow dane..." on his site.