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Re:Facebook adds 5 divs, 9 spans and 30 CSS classes to every... by hobs on Friday February 08, 2019 @01:10PM (#19117001)
Do you think creating something that goes counter to your users desire is not unscrupulous?

The only difference between the first stage of the pipeline and the rest is a matter of degree.

Re:Facebook adds 5 divs, 9 spans and 30 CSS classes to every... by justapassenger on Friday February 08, 2019 @05:20PM (#19119229)
I desire free eggs at the grocery store. Grocery store doesn't want to give me them. Grocery store is unscrupulous.
Re:Facebook adds 5 divs, 9 spans and 30 CSS classes to every... by cobbzilla on Friday February 08, 2019 @04:00PM (#19118617)
Sure, but FB's real "users" are the advertisers. They love this. The people who think they are FB users are just resources, inputs to the money machine. As long as the resources aren't leaving the platform, who cares?
Re:Facebook adds 5 divs, 9 spans and 30 CSS classes to every... by johnny99 on Friday February 08, 2019 @01:17PM (#19117079)
Disagree. How do you suggest they operate their business? Does this extend to print magazines and newspapers--do you suggest they stop running ads and just give away their product? Do you think Facebook should start charging a subscription?

What users want, naturally, is everything awesome free forever. It's naive, though, to things that everyone should always get what they want.

As other have said, I agree there are hard limits and Facebook has violated them, in terms of selling data and collecting it without user's permission. That's different.

Re:Facebook adds 5 divs, 9 spans and 30 CSS classes to every... by def_true_false on Friday February 08, 2019 @05:53PM (#19119449)
Selling data is bad but serving what is effectively malware is not?
Re:Facebook adds 5 divs, 9 spans and 30 CSS classes to every... by duxup on Friday February 08, 2019 @01:14PM (#19117043)
>counter to your users desire is not unscrupulous?

I mean no... they don't have to my (or my employer's) site.

I love doing things users like, and I do my best to do that often, but straight up it's not their site. If someone wants ads on their site ... I don't see a problem with that on the most basic level.

Fake news, other content, we're talking about something else.

Re:Facebook adds 5 divs, 9 spans and 30 CSS classes to every... by mmmmmmmmm on Friday February 08, 2019 @01:36PM (#19117254)
Wendy's charging me $1.89 for a junior bacon cheeseburger goes against my desire; I'd rather get it for free. That doesn't mean it's unscrupulous for them to charge me $1.89 for a cheeseburger.