All late projects are the same (2011) [pdf]

Re:All late projects are the same (2011) [pdf] by jen729w on Sunday February 03, 2019 @08:02PM (#19073215)

They’re all late because customers are fools and salespeople are liars.

Customer: “how long will it take (and therefore cost)?”

Three vendors: “less than [the other 2 vendors].”

...iterate until “cheapest” solution is reached ... meanwhile the technical staff at the vendors are losing their minds at the sales team, telling them that what they’re specifying is impossible...

Customer, to vendor [cheapest]: “Here’s a contract. We look forward to this project being delivered on time and on budget!”

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Re:All late projects are the same (2011) [pdf] by avip on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:26AM (#19074566)

Salesperson to raging customer (aftermath): "We were only able to complete the bathroom in the estimated time. You are welcome to live in it for a reduced monthly fee while we build the rest of the house around you"

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Re:All late projects are the same (2011) [pdf] by collyw on Monday February 04, 2019 @07:23AM (#19075699)

In my experience new build houses and apartments are never on time either.

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Re:All late projects are the same (2011) [pdf] by Gravityloss on Monday February 04, 2019 @08:40AM (#19076257)

there was just a recently completed apartment building here which was months ahead of schedule. They tried more agile methods when doing it: daily meetings instead of weekly ones and working more in parallel. It was done by a less dinosaury company called Fira.

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Re:All late projects are the same (2011) [pdf] by GuiA on Sunday February 03, 2019 @11:59PM (#19074098)

Generalizing, this equates to “projects fail as result of poor/dishonest communication”, which is definitely accurate.

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Re:All late projects are the same (2011) [pdf] by trainingaccount on Monday February 04, 2019 @02:22AM (#19074551)

We sure don't want it to go over time and budget like the last 10 projects.

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Re:All late projects are the same (2011) [pdf] by Sharlin on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:54AM (#19074882)

Just need to manage the lazy developers better (read: more) this time!

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Re:All late projects are the same (2011) [pdf] by sgt on Monday February 04, 2019 @08:57AM (#19076365)

More meetings will do the trick. A daily 30 minute standup, and a few alignment meetings scattered throughout the day to identify the technical causes as to why progress is slow. Let's however not go into too much technical detail, but ensure that the developers are aware of what's at stake here.

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