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Re:Things that are more inequitable than road pricing by hopler on Sunday February 03, 2019 @12:47PM (#19070997)
“I’m giving you an order to show me your ID” isn't skirting the law, it's invoking it. It's illegal to disobey police, even illegal orders.
Re:Things that are more inequitable than road pricing by cobbzilla on Sunday February 03, 2019 @02:47PM (#19071758)
At least in the US, you are definitely not required to obey unlawful orders. Otherwise the police could tell you to commit a crime and you’d be in a Catch-22.

Now, the police will never tell you whether an order is lawful, they’ll try whatever they think they can get away with. So whatever the citizen/police equivalent of “Caveat Emptor” is, it definitely applies in these situations; asymmetric information is not your friend.

Re:Things that are more inequitable than road pricing by dragonwriter on Sunday February 03, 2019 @03:03PM (#19071856)
> Now, the police will never tell you whether an order is lawful

Not to mention that police have very little education on the law in the first place; “criminal justice” or “administration of justice"—what amounts to the practice of law enforcement—maybe, but that has a more distant and tenuous connection to law than one might think.

Re:Things that are more inequitable than road pricing by koboll on Sunday February 03, 2019 @01:35PM (#19071302)
That isn't true at all in this circumstance. He isn't disrupting traffic, on private property, or breaking any law. It's not illegal to disobey police except under special circumstances.