Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter (2015)
by stcredzero on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @04:21PM
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In a material universe there is no objective good or bad.
I'm willing to bet that there's a sadist out there who, if they had you under their control, could eventually convince you there is definite objective bad.
Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter (2015)
by 09bjb on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @04:59PM
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And yet for every one of these sadists, a Viktor Frankl pops up to say "“Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.”
Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter (2015)
by stcredzero on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @05:08PM
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I'd pull a nihilist into my lifeboat. I wouldn't be happy about it, though. If I had to choose Viktor Frankl or a nihilist, I'd choose Viktor Frankl. I wouldn't be happy about that either.
Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter (2015)
by vokep on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @04:31PM
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Pain is objectively bad. Even if in a greater moral system pain is necessary to balance things and so is "good" in that sense, even then it would be a necessary evil. (keyword evil) If there were a way without it, that would be better.
Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter (2015)
by incompatible on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @05:37PM
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Pain is just a way that animals experience strong motivation. People born without the ability to feel pain have serious problems, because they don't make enough effort to avoid damage.
In a material universe there is no objective good or bad.