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Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by aberoham on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @06:30PM (#19030987)
Author here. This was an extremely hard topic to write about. Happy to answer questions but really hoping those from sig-cli and sig-architecture chime in here. Is this Kerfuffle the root of the sudden resurgence of KEPs?
Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by the_duke on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:41PM (#19031463)
Your writing style is hilarious, bordering on poetic.

It is somewhat hard to follow the actual information though, and non-native speakers will probably struggle quite a bit.

Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by qlk1123 on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @08:37PM (#19031778)
Non-native reader/kubernetes learner here. I know only keywords from this article. It's a pity that I cannot get the full meaning of it, but still it provide a chance for me to learn some upstream news.

Thanks for speaking out for us!

Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by aberoham on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @11:24PM (#19032649)
Hi! If you're up for it, I'd love to do a recorded video/voice call to listen to your feedback and perhaps even try to fill in the topic areas that non-obvious to learners. Talking to folks about 'nettes is the highlight of my day. Send a note to the email in my profile?
Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by shaklee3 on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @01:26AM (#19033140)
Agreed on all of that. It was a really enjoyable read on a topic that is otherwise extremely dry.
Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by justicezyx on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:49PM (#19031515)
I'd like you to start a series on less-formal activities surrounding the k8s community. For example, public events, new major adopters, war story of using k8s that affect k8s' fundamental technical philosophy, etc.
Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by aberoham on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @09:50PM (#19032199)
Gravitational blog posts[1] I've participated in are generally in these topic areas. Any more specific requests?

[1] https://gravitational.com/blog/

Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by justicezyx on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:40PM (#19032440)
One thing comes to mind is to describe how k8s has evolved in a certain time frame, and some of interesting changes of courses (if any) and important events, controversies, etc.

This is very difficult to write though, needs to go through a huge pile of history. Just my selfindulged request.

Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by justinsb on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:43PM (#19031467)
Not the cause. The release team asked for KEPs for all new features in the next release and the deadline was today.
Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by aberoham on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:46PM (#19031486)
Indeed, someone in a separate channel explained that new sig-pm staffing is at the root of the resurgence of KEPs. Thanks justinsb, no relation to GCP's Justin Santa Barbara?
Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by spiffxp on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:56PM (#19032512)
Other way around. Hi I'm the Kubernetes 1.14 release lead, I work for Google, and I'm the guy who said "bumpy road"

During the Kubernetes Contributor Summit at KubeCon Seattle last year, I made lots of noise about using KEPs, and about needing non-technical contributors to help those of us who are "organizationally challenged". In what I hope was a response, people showed up at SIG PM.

See https://youtu.be/_7IIzH_4yUk?t=998, https://youtu.be/mwG2CzdCg_8?t=1389, and https://youtu.be/mwG2CzdCg_8?t=1893 if you want to see me rambling about it on camera

I think this conversation was really kicked back up in earnest as a result of Windows node support not landing in 1.13 due to a lack of clarity on what the bar was for release. There were other enhancements that could have had a smoother landings in this and previous releases, but this was definitely when we realized we needed to overhaul and document this part of the project.

Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by aberoham on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @12:18AM (#19032897)
Thank you Aaron! I'll have to write a follow-up re: `smoother landings`
Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by justinsb on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:48PM (#19031508)
Oh sorry - yes that's me! Disclaimer: I work for Google on GKE & Kubernetes! I thought this was more of a community question and forgot...
Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by the_duke on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:47PM (#19031501)
Question: one of the main advantages of helm (for me) is the pruning of dead resources.

As in, my chart contains 3 services , I remove one of them including some related things like secrets, configmaps, etc and deploy, helm will clean up everything redundant.

Does Kustomize handle this problem?

Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by mgoodness on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @09:50PM (#19032196)
It does not. Kustomize only generates the manifests. Typically you'd use a GitOps-driven CD application (ArgoCD, Weave Flux) to create/change/delete resources.
Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by mfer on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @08:25PM (#19031720)
Correction for your post, it's a CNCF Technical Oversight Committee (TOC) rather than a Kubernetes one. The Kubernetes steering committee oversees Kubernetes. The CNCF TOC oversees all the CNCF projects (Prometheus, Kubernetes, Helm, etc).
Re:The Kubernetes Kustomize KEP Kerfuffle by aberoham on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @09:43PM (#19032164)
Interesting quibble, will edit.