FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are calling before they pick up

Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by 0x0 on Monday January 28, 2019 @07:49PM (#19022687)

That's a pretty huge flaw. Millions if not billions of people can suddenly remotely spy on almost any other ios or mac anywhere in the world, just by knowing their email address or phone number?

Perhaps Apple should simply pull the plug on the facetime servers for now.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by dannyw on Monday January 28, 2019 @09:11PM (#19023077)

Perhaps apppe should disable Group FaceTime calls until an update is out.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by smmnyc on Monday January 28, 2019 @11:12PM (#19023698)

Done!

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by chmaynard on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @08:16AM (#19026002)

Tim, is that you?

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by twothumbsup on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @03:46PM (#19029659)

They have Group FT disabled on the backend for now according to The Verge article about this.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by stcredzero on Monday January 28, 2019 @08:24PM (#19022868)

That's a pretty huge flaw. Millions if not...

Is it just me, or is such a phrase applicable to Apple far too many times in the past several years? I think their engineering is losing quality or is falling behind on what they have to cover.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by jsjohnst on Monday January 28, 2019 @10:25PM (#19023447)

> Is it just me, or is such a phrase applicable to Apple far too many times in the past several years?

Couldn't the same statement be made about Facebook, Google, Yahoo, and other very large tech companies too?

When a company has a billion users, pretty much any huge flaw is going to have a very wide reaching impact.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by saagarjha on Monday January 28, 2019 @09:28PM (#19023189)

Quality concerns aside, any bug in iOS instantly affects a billion people by virtue of the number of active users it has.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by JeremyBanks on Monday January 28, 2019 @09:14PM (#19023093)

Comparable examples?

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by stcredzero on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @12:20PM (#19028049)

Just off the top of my head: I think on three separate occasions, specifically crafted text messages have made the Messages app disappear from iOS, requiring a reboot. There was a comparable MacOS login bug not too long ago.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by gpm on Monday January 28, 2019 @08:01PM (#19022756)

Unless Apple decides they face significant legal exposure over the bug somehow I don't see them doing that. It would attract so much more attention that it would almost certainly not be worth it economically.

I wonder if they (executives? engineers? the company itself?) could be charged with aiding and abetting wiretapping or something now that they know it's happening and are letting their servers keep doing it.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by paultopia on Monday January 28, 2019 @09:44PM (#19023273)

Anyone got Tim Cook's number? If you do, bet you can get some, uh, exposure for this problem real quick.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by theDoug on Monday January 28, 2019 @10:05PM (#19023380)

"We must keep fighting for the kind of world we want to live in. On this #DataPrivacyDay let us all insist on action and reform for vital privacy protections. The dangers are real and the consequences are too important." - Tim Cook today in what is now a bit ironic

https://mobile.twitter.com/tim_cook/status/10900017677801799...

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by awhitty on Monday January 28, 2019 @11:04PM (#19023661)

I think it’s inappropriate to make (or imply) a call to action in a public forum to violate the privacy of a public figure (or anyone, but a public figure in this case). There’s low probability that Tim’s personal accounts or devices are easily accessible by the public, and I assume he has a team dedicated to his personal security, but let’s not encourage folks to start scheming...

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by bookofjoe on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:01AM (#19026809)

see: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/77hl5k/i_sent_an_ema...

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by crgt on Monday January 28, 2019 @09:51PM (#19023306)

Anyone try FaceTiming his email? Could be linked to iCloud and FaceTime-able..

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by samstave on Monday January 28, 2019 @10:50PM (#19023590)

[redacted]

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by xuki on Monday January 28, 2019 @10:55PM (#19023623)

That’s not his Apple email.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by samstave on Monday January 28, 2019 @11:08PM (#19023675)

I know.

I didnt want to post his supposedly actual public email for fear of being accused of doxxing him.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by saagarjha on Monday January 28, 2019 @11:57PM (#19023890)

I doubt he has his public email hooked up to his iPhone's iMessage/FaceTime, anyways.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by netsharc on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @09:06AM (#19026326)

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple has their own internal iCloud network. Just like Google has their Apps for Business, Apple could have one but just inwards-facing and not hosting any other business.

This means even if you have his internal FaceTime/iMessage ID, you wouldn't be able to contact him because his account and yours exist in 2 realms.

Then again I guess he'd need an external-facing one for public VVIP to FaceTime him. Maybe he just carries 2 phones?

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by saagarjha on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @07:21PM (#19041089)

Apple has iCloud@Work, but I don't think it supports iMessage and FaceTime.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by gammateam on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @01:13AM (#19024192)

That's what the sockpuppet account and TOR is for.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by gpm on Monday January 28, 2019 @10:00PM (#19023347)

I suppose I did suggest trying to convict Apple with aiding in wiretapping, I really don't think being the one they are aiding is a good idea...

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by bookofjoe on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:00AM (#19026795)

I use [email protected]. Full disclosure: so far, it's been one-way correspondence; I've yet to hear back.

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Re:FaceTime bug lets you hear audio of person you are callin... by 0x0 on Monday January 28, 2019 @08:12PM (#19022813)

Do you think they will just ask all their employees to manually disable facetime in the meantime?

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