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Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by avar on Saturday January 26, 2019 @06:00PM (#19009128)
Yeah that's fortunately increasingly an option we can take, but the world would sure suck less if we weren't dealing with the compounded effects of 50-70 years of the sort of nuclear skepticism expressed in your comment upthread.

But still, even if we're going to aggressively build out renewables there's still room for a lot more nuclear in the energy mix. There's use-cases for it where solar, wind etc. isn't a substitute, e.g. shipping[1].

1. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2008/feb/13/climatec...

Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by cam_l on Sunday January 27, 2019 @12:20AM (#19010451)
We have had 30+ years of skepticism in coal power, which made near enough to approximately fuck all difference (until perhaps very recently). I would suggest the historical stagnation of nuclear has sfa to do with activism and quite a lot to do with the astronomical costs of building, mining and operation.

Also just a thought re. your eg. on shipping.. I read a random blog a while back that suggested that a couple of large cargo ships go missing every week (sinking or piracy mostly). Not a thing I would like to see with nuclear reactors and material on board.

http://actuarialeye.com/2014/03/30/how-many-ships-disappear-...

Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by epai on Saturday January 26, 2019 @06:15PM (#19009199)
Isn’t that what the tesla semi electric truck and airbus e-fan x electric plane projects aim to help mitigate though: the reliance on gas for shipping/transportation?

Just because some use cases are not practical for renewables now doesn’t mean they won’t be in the near future.

Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by mrhappyunhappy on Saturday January 26, 2019 @06:13PM (#19009187)
Are you willing to live next door to a nuclear plant? People don't experience coal related problems unless they live in areas that are heavily polluted. Sure it impacts them and everyone else but it's perceived less harmful.
Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by loeg on Saturday January 26, 2019 @07:09PM (#19009443)
I'd rather live "next to" nuclear than coal. (Neither of these are built abutting residential neighborhoods, so "next to" is a bit of a fallacy.)
Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by mrhappyunhappy on Saturday January 26, 2019 @07:41PM (#19009589)
There is an idle plant near San Diego they've been wanting to open for a long time but the residents in surrounding areas fight it tooth and nail. For a changebof scenery, residents in Nagasaki are fighting an ongoing battle (losing but trying) to shut down the plant in the area. I have yet to hear of other cases but so far it seems people living in the vicinity of nuclear plants are not happy.
Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by stale2002 on Sunday January 27, 2019 @05:12AM (#19011155)
Ok, so what you are saying is that you would prefer to live next to a dirty coal power plant that is much more likely to cause you to get cancer or other horrible health effects?
Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by C_J_H on Sunday January 27, 2019 @08:09AM (#19011550)
I would say that's a false equivalency because coal operators (until recently) were profitable enterprises whereas nuclear lobbyists are generally concerned not just with public tolerance but public funding.
Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by loeg on Sunday January 27, 2019 @12:54PM (#19012807)
Coal is/was only profitable because externalities are not priced in.

Everyone knows the externalities of nuclear power and it gets priced in to any discussion of new plants in 2019. The fear (about meltdowns) and concern (about waste) typically outsizes the actual risk substantially.

But most people don't seem to realize that coal far more produces aerosolized radioactive waste, other carcinogens, and as a result, cancer, per watt, than nuclear. Even if you assume every single nuclear plant melts down. Burnt coal is just absymal for public health, but it doesn't get the scary branding that nuclear power does.

Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by jacobolus on Saturday January 26, 2019 @08:04PM (#19009707)
It’s at the southern tip of Orange County, not that far from both San Diego and Los Angeles, and there are millions of people nearby. It has been closed for about 7 years, and the claimed risks/fears seem plausible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Onofre_Nuclear_Generating_...

Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by jpindar on Saturday January 26, 2019 @08:06PM (#19009718)
I can see Seabrook Station from here, and there are houses within a mile of the reactor. The popular beach towns of Seabrook and Hampton beach are within two miles. AFAIK, neither my neighbors nor the tourists give it much thought.
Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by TomMarius on Saturday January 26, 2019 @06:45PM (#19009339)
> Are you willing to live next door to a nuclear plant?

Most of the people in my friend group actually live next to one. Zero issues, and it's an old communist party-built one.

Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by mrhappyunhappy on Saturday January 26, 2019 @07:42PM (#19009593)
Where I'd you don't mind me asking?
Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by TomMarius on Saturday January 26, 2019 @09:08PM (#19009975)
Temelin, Czech Republic
Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by selimthegrim on Saturday January 26, 2019 @07:52PM (#19009629)
Krško?
Re:Bill Gates promises to add his own billions if Congress d... by tdj on Sunday January 27, 2019 @01:03AM (#19010548)
Krško is a Westinghouse design. I've spent quite some time in the area, and nobody really worried about the power plant. The smell of the cellulose plant in the city center on the other hand, ...