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Re:Oslo made its city center basically car-free by smsm42 on Friday January 25, 2019 @03:38PM (#19002276)
Borrowing handicap permit is already illegal, and AFAIR carries pretty hefty fine. Of course, enforcing it is hard - would you demand a spot physical endurance exam from everybody parking in a handicapped place? How would you even know? I used the temporary handicapped placard once for a while, when I broke my leg. When recovering, on some days, I could walk for a bit. On others, I could only walk with crutches and for a short distance. But maybe I was just faking, who knows? And of course I didn't carry my medical records with me everywhere I went. So how would you know if I'm legitimately hurt or just borrowed the placard?

If you are reluctant to harass legitimately disabled people, some amount of abuse would slip in. I think unless the abuse is so rampant that legitimate users get denied access (e.g. so many fakers are parking in handicap spots that the real ones have no spot) ignoring most of it as the inevitable price of not making lives of legitimately affected people yet harder is the right way to go.

Re:Oslo made its city center basically car-free by mLuby on Friday January 25, 2019 @06:34PM (#19003643)
It would be reasonable to spot-check driver's license (which they necessarily have for driving said vehicle). Should be easy enough to verify against the handicap permit.
Re:Oslo made its city center basically car-free by anoncoward111 on Friday January 25, 2019 @07:52PM (#19003985)
If I was handicapped and people started gestapo'ing me to make sure I am who I am....

man sometimes you just have to let externalities happen in the name of not screwing over the 99% of people who do it by the book

Re:Oslo made its city center basically car-free by throwaway234231 on Saturday January 26, 2019 @01:19AM (#19005103)
Where I live, the light rail isn't access controlled, so they send officers around randomly to verify that everyone on the train have a valid pass (and ticket those who don't). Nobody really complains about it or thinks it's invasive.

I don't see how this would be any different.

Re:Oslo made its city center basically car-free by smsm42 on Saturday January 26, 2019 @03:45AM (#19005500)
I am sure there are still people who manage to ride the rail for free. Not many, but there are. And that's ok, some low-level abuse is perfectly tolerable as long as it's low-level.
Re:Oslo made its city center basically car-free by jabl on Saturday January 26, 2019 @05:44AM (#19005750)
Same here, and for the metro as well.

That being said, IMHO it's better to tolerate a moderate amount of abuse than going over the wall with enforcement.

Re:Oslo made its city center basically car-free by yardie on Saturday January 26, 2019 @11:15AM (#19006864)
Completely unreasonable as far as I am concerned. ID checks are done as part of safety checks: drunk driving, speed traps, etc. But they cannot be done without another violation occurring. And that’s more than enough government in my life.