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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by leesec on Thursday January 24, 2019 @01:53AM (#18986533)
Apple has 250 billion dollars at their disposal. They can obviously have multiple efforts running in parallel.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by shalmanese on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:55AM (#18986784)
People fail to appreciate the fundamental differences between functional and divisional orgs and how that constrains Apple.

At Microsoft, the head of Xbox marketing reports to the head of Xbox and the head of Azure marketing reports to the head of Azure.

At Apple, there is no divisions, every Apple marketer is responsible for the success of every Apple product and reports to the head of Apple marketing. But the only way this is possible is if every single Apple employee is able to hold every single Apple product line in their head at the same time.

This is an enormous constraint but it's also foundational to Apple mythos because it allowed them to kill the iPod. Divisional orgs have an enormously hard time with disruptive innovation because it upends the power structures of those with the most power. At Apple, there wasn't any person with the title "Head of iPod" whose job would have been in danger if the iPhone overtook the iPod. This was the reason Apple and pretty much only Apple have ever aggressively obsoleted their very best selling product and emerged even stronger out the other side.

You can argue the merits of functional vs divisional all day long and many have but none of those arguments will gain any traction inside of Apple. Apple will remain functional until the day it dies because functional is what allowed Apple to kill the iPod.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by saagarjha on Thursday January 24, 2019 @03:52AM (#18987042)
> But the only way this is possible is if every single Apple employee is able to hold every single Apple product line in their head at the same time.

Just to clarify: every public product line. If Apple is working on autonomous vehicles, there's no way that every (or even most) employees at Apple know about it.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by greedo on Thursday January 24, 2019 @04:18PM (#18993061)
"But the only way this is possible is if every single Apple employee is able to hold every single Apple product line in their head at the same time."

Ridiculous. Apple has an incredible amount of secrecy across its different departments. Functional orgs don't require the hoi polloi to know everything, as long as mgmt does.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by Nimitz14 on Thursday January 24, 2019 @07:16AM (#18987986)
Thanks for posting that I didn't realize that's how Apple worked.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by daveFNbuck on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:13AM (#18986601)
This would be more obvious if I weren't reading it on a brand new faulty MacBook Pro screen.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by stealthcat on Thursday January 24, 2019 @04:24AM (#18987172)
Can't do much with anti-trust law around.

In 18th-century, "trade companies" (V.O.C., British East India Company, etc.) are strong enough to own a country.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by dragonwriter on Thursday January 24, 2019 @04:43AM (#18987262)
> In 18th-century, "trade companies" (V.O.C., British East India Company, etc.) are strong enough to own a country.

Also, effectively, in the twentieth century, post-antitrust. Hence, why we have the term “banana republic”.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by iagooar on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:16AM (#18986610)
They have the money - but do they have enough high-profile people to run all those efforts?
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by rurban on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:21AM (#18986632)
Yes, but obviously they cannot fix the more urging problems in their core business: Keyboards, laptop CPU's and memory, macOS development. It's a desaster area every developer working with their products wants to leave as soon as possible.

And why should I trust them with an iPhone or car then, when the simpliest products were run into the ground.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by Twisell on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:46AM (#18986753)
Anything baking up your old school Apple is doomed rant?

Swift is a huge and thankless work totally invisible to the userbase and heavily targeted to improve development on Mac/iOS.

You just can’t brush it off to fit your narrative.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by greedo on Thursday January 24, 2019 @04:19PM (#18993072)
APFS is also a big investment in replacing HFS+.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by matthewmacleod on Thursday January 24, 2019 @03:20AM (#18986903)
Keyboards, laptop CPU's and memory, macOS development. It's a desaster area every developer working with their products wants to leave as soon as possible.

Jesus, calm the hell down.

It’s okay to have complaints about aspects of Apple’s products, but this wild exaggeration isn’t doing anybody any favours.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by npunt on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:41AM (#18986723)
Macs aren't their core business. You may think they should be, but they aren't.