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Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by shunders on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:42PM (#18983364)
> "I do believe it will go to zero. I think it's a great technology but I don't believe it's a currency. It's not based on anything," Jeff Schumacher, founder of BCG Digital Ventures, said during a CNBC-hosted panel in Davos, Switzerland.

I can't believe we are still arguing these incredibly rudimentary points. Let alone that these quotes still get press coverage. Really, you're talking about cryptocurrency on a panel at Davos and you still haven't taken the time to reflect upon the nature of money?

What does "It's not based on anything" even mean? What is a dollar "based on"?

Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by randomsearch on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:23PM (#18983770)
What is a dollar based on?

The need for the citizens of the most powerful nation on earth to pay their taxes in it; a legal and regulatory framework to support it; and the military and diplomatic might of the US to support it.

Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by celticninja on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @06:05PM (#18984124)
So it's based on a concept, a loosely defined one at that. Cryptocurrency is based on a strictly defined mathematical concept. It isn't a huge leap between the two.
Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by majewsky on Thursday January 24, 2019 @07:12AM (#18987971)
All that math is not going to help you when your government puts you in jail for not paying your taxes.
Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by timbit42 on Thursday January 24, 2019 @01:45PM (#18991616)
Who isn't paying their taxes? Bitcoin can be sold for fiat and taxes can be paid.
Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by majewsky on Friday January 25, 2019 @06:14AM (#18997087)
Exactly. If I have to pay taxes in dollars, why should I accept anything but dollars in the first place?
Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by ChrisLomont on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:53PM (#18984053)
>What is a dollar "based on"?

It's a coupon tradable against a portion of the future production of the entire US economy. As long as the country makes anything, and as long as the government is around, a dollar one owns is tradable for items produced there. For it to fail would take tremendous failure of likely the entire world economy, at which point all promises of future trade will be suspect. As such, it's quite stable for the foreseeable future.

What is a bitcoin based on? It's currently also tradable for goods to those offering to take BTC for goods directly (a tiny and shaky market), or more tradable to those willing to give dollars for BTC, which is bigger, but still tiny and shaky compared to a dollar itself.

BTC marketcap $62B USD, ~$5B daily trading volume. USD trades ~5T a dat, and likey does a few T more in business transactions/day.

Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by _cs2017_ on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:52PM (#18983466)
You're probably right. But if I were to try and defend his statement, perhaps he means it's not based on factors such as convenience as a medium of exchange, or public confidence that it will have relatively stable value (so that it can serve as a medium of storing value).
Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by DeepYogurt on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @06:54PM (#18984517)
> What is a dollar "based on"?

Faith in the US government

Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by Grue3 on Thursday January 24, 2019 @05:15AM (#18987399)
>What is a dollar "based on"?

This is a poor argument. Many real-life currencies had effectively "went to zero" via hyperinflation. I assume you meant US dollar, but whatever Zimbabwean dollar was based on was clearly not enough to support it.

Re:'Bitcoin will go to zero': Davos talks up the future of b... by sschueller on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:55PM (#18983494)
How can anyone give this venture firm any money when its founder is so clueless on how currency works.