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Re:Oracle allegedly underpaid $400M in wages to underreprese... by moate on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:10PM (#18982997)
Possible counterpoint conclusion: when a woman says "please give me a raise" and a man says "please give me a raise" people are more likely to listen to a man.

You're injecting a whole lot of assumption on how these negotiations are happening.

Re:Oracle allegedly underpaid $400M in wages to underreprese... by paulie_a on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:12AM (#18986598)
Who the hell says "please give me a raise"? You've already put yourself in a position of weakness, man or woman.

I deserve a raise because...3 reasons. I have accomplished xyz and want a raise.

In my younger years I said I wanted a raise of 20 percent immediately after telling my manager that I told a coworker "to go fuck himself" twice.

Re:Oracle allegedly underpaid $400M in wages to underreprese... by extrememacaroni on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:15PM (#18983039)
You're basing this off of statistics that ignore how these negotiations happen. Or really any sort of nuance that makes a difference in the real world. Like the quality of work the individual outputs or how much the company needs them, or how well they're perceived by their peers overall, or just how smartly they approach their employer when negotiating.

"Please give me a raise" is not a negotiation. To negotiate properly you need a trump card, "please give me a raise" doesn't show one.