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Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by pizza on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:50AM (#18976724)
The scale of these megacorps is crazy! I wonder how you even plan to move that much data. I know that Amazon has a service called Snowmobile for stuff like this. They probably did something similar here.

"You can transfer up to 100PB per Snowmobile, a 45-foot long rugged sized shipping container, pulled by a semi-trailer truck."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vQmTZTq7nw

Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by derekalyon on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:00AM (#18979326)
This is Derek, from the video. Sorry I am just joing the conversation mow.

For this use case, we setup 800 Gbps of interconnect with Google.

Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by chatmasta on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:31AM (#18979688)
So at 300PB it took about a month to transfer? Sounds like an interesting project in itself.
Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by derekalyon on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @12:07PM (#18980080)
Yeah! We’ll be operating in a hybrid model steady-state, so the links aren’t just for the one-time copy.
Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by AndrewKemendo on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @01:31PM (#18981072)
That's insane.

With the interconnect being faster than the network cards by several orders of magnitude (I assume unless there is special hardware), how is it structured to utilize all of the 800Gbps?

Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by derekalyon on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @01:56PM (#18981383)
We are using dedicated clusters to push data over the links.

A member of our team proposed a session for Google NEXT '19 that goes into the architecture we are using in a lot more depth. We're waiting to see if that talk is accepted or not, but in any case we're planning to share more soon.

Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by pizza on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:29PM (#18982527)
Wow!
Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by pojzon on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:40AM (#18977185)
Migrations like these take time and happen step by step.

First you can try to replicate some data and move read instances. After that step by step the rest.

Its really not possible to do that overnight or months even.

Fyi: im currently migrating twice the Twitter size one in the world infrastructure from aws to azure now.

Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by tpetry on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:59AM (#18977253)
Isn‘t exporting 600TB of data from aws ridicously expensive?
Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by detaro on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @06:23AM (#18977350)
Twitters number is in PB, not TB. At that scale, assume that none of the normal pricing and procedures apply.
Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by asaddhamani on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @06:22AM (#18977345)
600TB would come out to around $50000 which for Twitter is peanuts. This is their bandwidth pricing though but I guess they'd use snowmobile export (if that exists?) instead.
Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by gervase on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:48AM (#18979174)
For reference, 300PB (the amount referenced in the article) using the same pricing would cost $25M. Still might be a reasonable one-time cost for migration for a large corporation, though, even disregarding the "bulk" rates they'd see at that scale.
Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by teej on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:42PM (#18985256)
AWS Snowmobile cost is $0.005/GB per month which comes out to $1.5M/month for 300PB for however long the data is on the truck.
Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by fro0116 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:57AM (#18976758)
> Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.

https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/

Re:Twitter migrates data to Google Cloud by BerislavLopac on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @06:26AM (#18977362)
The mention of "SneakerNet" reminded me of old times when we had a bunch of old Macintoshes (pre-OSX) connected with a proprietary local network called LocalTalk. It was so unreliable that we had a couple of 3.5" floppy disks that we used to transfer files when it didn't work; the disks were labelled "LocalWalk". :D