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Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by soared on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @01:38PM (#18970939)
These maps don't show a dam thing and the analysis is super weak. Its common sense that people in cities make more money and are more likely to walk to work. Then workers in rural areas drive alone to work and make less money.

https://xkcd.com/1138/

Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by francisofascii on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @01:52PM (#18971103)
Ironic that the people making more money walk, (which historically has been what poor people do). And the current poorer people use a privately owned transport vehicle. That would not be common sense to an American living more than 100 years ago. :)
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by the_gastropod on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @02:16PM (#18971370)
It's not common sense today either. I don't think many people actually understand how expensive driving a car is. These expenses are both individual (maintenance, gas, insurance, tolls, tickets, etc.) and societal (greenhouse gas emissions, crashes, infrastructure like roads, bridges, and interstate exchanges, inefficient land use from parking, etc.)

I'm confident in the future we'll look back at how most Americans live today, and cringe at the massive inefficiency.

Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by TuringNYC on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @02:27PM (#18971494)
There is another "expense" in driving cars - having to expend mental load on driving and not being able to focus 100% on something else during commute time.

Exactly one year ago, we tried an experiment and moved to Arlington VA, just outside Washington DC. We live ~5km from my office and i switch it up between walking, metro, and cycling with a big bias towards walking. Door-to-door, 95% of the route is dedicated trail so there is no mental load of avoiding traffic. I churn thru audiobooks, catch-up conversations with friends, and sometimes just plain uninterrupted thinking. This is the best gift given i've given myself for a long, long time. Summertime walks are so pleasurable that I look forward to going to work early in the day and coming back just as the sun subsides.

This is all awesome enough that I'm dreading the next job in SF/SV/NYC just because of commute alone.

If you are curious, this is the typical (non-winter) walk: https://www.instagram.com/p/BhCXV4eDvSZ/?utm_source=ig_web_c...

Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by nategri on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @02:07PM (#18971269)
Agree. These days not owning a car can be either a sign of being extremely poor, or somewhat privileged.
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by i_cant_speel on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @02:12PM (#18971324)
I think it's along the lines of people with more money tend to live closer to downtown which means they are more likely to live in a walkable distance to work.
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by ghaff on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @02:38PM (#18971622)
You mean places like Silucon Valley where people walk to work? A huge number of the good professional urban area jobs are not actually in the cities. And for those which are many mid-career and older workers live in suburbs or even further out.
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by larrik on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @02:10PM (#18971302)
Not sure why you are getting downvotes, like half of the map doesn't ever appear on any of the lists, implying that half of NY state, for example, simply don't work.
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by aVx1uyD5pYWW on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @01:44PM (#18971016)
Their maps use percentage (rather than absolute numbers) of people in the area commuting with a given transportation mode. So it is a good usage of these maps imo.
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by soared on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @01:55PM (#18971145)
It still doesn't provide any useful info. 70% of the map has no data, and it literally only shows urban vs. suburban vs. rural areas on every map.
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by bluGill on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @04:31PM (#18972722)
70% of the map is farm land. They drive a tractor to work, or they drive a semi load of food to town. In both cases moving the driver is not the goal, just a side effect of autonomous vehicles not being ready yet.
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by burlesona on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @02:06PM (#18971267)
I mean, it’s a map of commuting, so what else would it show?
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by soared on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @02:20PM (#18971420)
My point is a map seems like a poor choice for the data. If half of your map is empty, and you’re really only showing a grouping of 3 categories, maybe use a graph or something else.
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by burlesona on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @04:07PM (#18972474)
Yeah that’s fair, thanks for clarifying.
Re:Great Divide in How Americans Commute to Work by athenot on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @01:43PM (#18971000)
It would be interesting to show ratios on the maps.