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Re:Munchery Shuts Down by twblalock on Monday January 21, 2019 @11:19PM (#18965971)
Let me put it this way:

Could people have put food in a box and mailed it to your house before the invention of computers? Yes.

Could people have offered computer hardware and software before the invention of computers? Of course not, that's silly.

Of course Microsoft and Google and Apple and Facebook are tech companies. It requires ridiculous reductionist contortions to argue otherwise.

On the other hand, Munchery could have existed at any time the USPS and Visa/Mastercard were operational. Restaurants have been delivering food for far longer than computers have existed.

Re:Munchery Shuts Down by manigandham on Monday January 21, 2019 @11:22PM (#18965979)
Do you think tech is just computers? Of course you cant offer computer software until computers are invented, what does that statement prove exactly?

Technology is scientific knowledge, strategies and processes used to solve problems. It's been around since the dawn of civilization and is used by every company to conduct and improve business.

Let me put this way: your average hospital has 1000x times more technology in use at any given moment then even the most silicon valley "tech" companies, but they are properly classified as healthcare companies.

Re:Munchery Shuts Down by twblalock on Monday January 21, 2019 @11:37PM (#18966029)
This is the kind of reductionism that blends everything together, which is useless. Nobody is better off for having thought this way. It just muddles everything together and there is no upside to doing it.
Re:Munchery Shuts Down by manigandham on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @12:07AM (#18966116)
Actually this is the opposite since it's clearly defining the kind of company based on what it actually produces and the industry it serves.

Reductionism is considering tech to only be something about computers and that only a handful of special companies are the only ones who use it. Perhaps you missed my statement about the hospital?

Re:Munchery Shuts Down by lazyasciiart on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @01:36AM (#18966429)
Nobody’s arguing about whether they use technology, but about whether their business is defined by technology enough to be called “tech companies”. Nobody refers to hospitals as “tech companies”?
Re:Munchery Shuts Down by manigandham on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @01:56AM (#18966503)
What does "business defined by technology" actually mean? Can you describe it clearly?

Since technology is applied science, why does a hospital using complex scientific machines to deliver healthcare not qualify but a company building a webapp to order food does? Where's the line exactly?

Re:Munchery Shuts Down by kkarakk on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @03:48AM (#18966939)
Can your whole online business be trivially replaced with a phonecall to a local service? congrats you're not a company that can succeed in the tech space because the competition is skyhigh.

Nowadays i'd say a tech company is defined by the "tech" it is implementing to disrupt/control the market. no disruption tech = waste of vc capital. "we do x better" isn't enough to last unless it's so radically better it is a new space(google's call screening feature could be spun off into it's own company for eg)

Re:Munchery Shuts Down by manigandham on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @09:29AM (#18968420)
What is the "tech space"? That's still conflating tech as just computing.
Re:Munchery Shuts Down by lazyasciiart on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @12:49PM (#18970390)
Yes. That’s how it is used.
Re:Munchery Shuts Down by solveit on Monday January 21, 2019 @11:39PM (#18966034)
The point is that the boundaries are being blurred. Is Amazon a tech company? Is Netflix? Is Netflix a tech company if they mailed you CDs instead of streaming the material?

Doing anything at scale pretty much turns you into a tech company these days.

Re:Munchery Shuts Down by twblalock on Monday January 21, 2019 @11:46PM (#18966060)
No, doing things that you could not do without the benefit of technology is what makes you a tech company. Obviously you can stretch the definition of technology to mean pretty much anything if you are not arguing in good faith.

I think all of us in 2019 have a fairly standard consensus understanding of what technology means in the context of this conversation and it would not be good to hijack that to mean anything you want it to mean.

Re:Munchery Shuts Down by manigandham on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @12:10AM (#18966124)
>> stretch the definition of technology to mean pretty much anything

The actual definition[1][2][3] of technology is applied science and knowledge for practical means. Narrowing the scope to fit arbitrary companies seems like the real stretch to me.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology

2. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/technology

3. https://www.open.edu/openlearn/science-maths-technology/engi...

Re:Munchery Shuts Down by swish_bob on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @07:49AM (#18967862)
So, when colour television was the cutting edge of technology, the TV companies were tech companies?
Re:Munchery Shuts Down by manigandham on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @12:15AM (#18966140)
No, there is no "tech company".

Amazon is retail, like Walmart has been. Netflix is media production and distribution, like Fox has been. Both have figured out new business models but that doesn't change the business that they're in.

Re:Munchery Shuts Down by IWeldMelons on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @06:54AM (#18967624)
Blurry boundaries do not mean no boundaries. Amazon, with their AWS services is squarely a tech company. Netflix arguably a bit less than say above-mentioned Amazon, but they do heavily depend on technology and innovate in that sphere, however are certainly less tech company than Xilinx, Motorola or International Rectifier, but certainly more than Domino or Papa Johns.
Re:Munchery Shuts Down by swish_bob on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @07:47AM (#18967853)
Netflix are a Media company.

They leverage some damn impressive technology, but their business is about delivering media for end user consumption, much like any of the TV companies during most of the 20th century, for example.

Re:Munchery Shuts Down by IWeldMelons on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @08:07AM (#18967944)
They can be both. I would not myself call Netflix call a tech company, but many people would, and I kinda see why. Munchery-punchery, OTOH are not technical at all, but certainly are hip.