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Re:Are We in the Middle of a Programming Bubble? by tanilama on Monday January 21, 2019 @12:15PM (#18961763)
> I think programmers tend to underestimate the difficulties involved with becoming a good programmer because once you're good, you only see the even steeper learning curve ahead of you.

But that is no definition of bubble. Bubble, at a very basic level, means there is a lot of capital flowing within, it has little to do with whether how difficult your job is.

Re:Are We in the Middle of a Programming Bubble? by Pamar on Monday January 21, 2019 @12:34PM (#18961911)
This is... debatable. I was around in 1985 and if I had proposed using "an eventually consistent schemaless DB" to tackle a bank or a manufacturing project I would have been laughed out of the room. And not because it sounded too good to be true, mind you...
Re:Are We in the Middle of a Programming Bubble? by woolvalley on Monday January 21, 2019 @03:33PM (#18963368)
Funny thing is, that is what ACH and many other banking systems are today, or at least back then. "Reconciliation" can take days.
Re:Are We in the Middle of a Programming Bubble? by sedachv on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @01:56PM (#18971162)
> I was around in 1985 and if I had proposed using "an eventually consistent schemaless DB" to tackle a bank or a manufacturing project I would have been laughed out of the room.

Medical record systems were running on MUMPS (schemaless) and being eventually consistent (records were keyed in from paper forms) long before 1985.

Re:Are We in the Middle of a Programming Bubble? by ummonk on Monday January 21, 2019 @12:58PM (#18962088)
Does anyone do that, at least on the software side? Obviously there are consistency issues with e.g. non-instantaneous bank teller actions, but those are human inconsistencies, not software inconsistencies..
Re:Are We in the Middle of a Programming Bubble? by Pamar on Monday January 21, 2019 @03:34PM (#18963371)
What I mean is that some of the powerful components we can leverage today solve problems that did not exist in 1985, so having these available then would not really help.

I mean: what would you use Node.js for - in 1985 - even assuming you had access to a system to develop and test stuff made with it?

Re:Are We in the Middle of a Programming Bubble? by sedachv on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @01:54PM (#18971131)
> I mean: what would you use Node.js for - in 1985

In 1985, your hypothetical bank would be running VMS, which had asynchronous IO system calls as the default. There was no need to "invent" something like Node.js.