Cleaning New York's harbor with one billion oysters

Re:Cleaning New York's harbor with one billion oysters by coldtea on Monday January 21, 2019 @11:08AM (#18961241)

>You do. Everybody wants clean air, clean water, etc. The Captain-Planet-Villain model of somebody literally cackling about how much pollution they're going to release into the world today is nonsense.

Actually it's totally sensible and compatible with the actual actions of the various actors involved.

Companies continue to plunder the ecosystem in ways that knowingly damage it (fracking, rainforest depletion, etc), we have cheaper air fares than ever, every major company does only token moves while continuing the damages, and so on.

And of course for decades important agreements weren't signed because of financial interests...

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Re:Cleaning New York's harbor with one billion oysters by skybrian on Monday January 21, 2019 @06:00PM (#18964439)

That's different. The comment you're responding to was talking about people who want to pollute more even if they don't make any money doing it.

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Re:Cleaning New York's harbor with one billion oysters by coldtea on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @02:45PM (#18971687)

Does not making money, and even spending money, but polluting for the luxury it affords, count?

E.g. people wanting plastic bags, even if they have to pay $0.20 for them, over the hassle of bringing their own hard bags to the supermarket?

Or people preferring more polluting ways to commute (e.g. car with one passenger over metro/bus) because of the convenience for them?

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Re:Cleaning New York's harbor with one billion oysters by skybrian on Tuesday January 22, 2019 @05:12PM (#18973127)

The idea is that doing something because it benefits you (selfishness) isn't the same as doing it out of spite (to hurt someone else).

Though sometimes it can be both, or hard to tell.

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