Kubernetes Failure Stories

Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by m0zg on Sunday January 20, 2019 @04:37PM (#18955768)

I'm going to voice a contrarian viewpoint here and say that "half million plus" salaries are actually a good thing. Rising tide lifts all boats and since a lot of technies live in areas with exorbitant cost of living, that money re-enters the economy at a rapid clip anyway. But such salaries are only good if commensurate value is being delivered for the money. Which in a large IT shop it might be, but as a small business owner K8S is a hard slog, hence my suggestion to simplify. I'm pretty sure 80/20 breakdown still applies, and 80% of K8S complexity could be removed without affecting anything much. One might suggest that I use GKE and bypass the problem entirely, but I need to run a lot of GPUs 24x7, and the pricing on those in any cloud is insane.

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Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by sonnyblarney on Sunday January 20, 2019 @04:56PM (#18955856)

"a lot of techies live in areas with exorbitant cost of living,"

And what do you think is the primary driver of said cost of living?

I believe there is a ton of arbitrary complexity in the system, and though it's not specifically created, it definitely grows if it's not checked and entities with power have no reason to do that.

Google, Oracle, MS, Governments, Banks - have very little incentive to clear the weeds, usually just the opposite.

Wherever there is steady profit, there are layers of cruft.

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Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by m0zg on Sunday January 20, 2019 @05:02PM (#18955888)

>> And what do you think is the primary driver of said cost of living?

Mostly NIMBY-driven refusal to build more housing and transportation infrastructure. It's not like the US is lacking for land. There's no reason a dilapidated teardown-ready shack should cost $2M, no matter where it is.

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Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by sonnyblarney on Sunday January 20, 2019 @05:19PM (#18955985)

No, there is NIMBY-ism in most places, the reason Valley prices are sky high is the salaries.

" There's no reason a dilapidated teardown-ready shack should cost $2M, no matter where it is."

The cost is not the shack, it's the land it's sitting on.

The higher the salaries in the valley, the more that dilapidated shack will cost.

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Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by m0zg on Sunday January 20, 2019 @05:33PM (#18956052)

You make it sound like people enjoy paying millions for dilapidated shacks, which I can assure you is not the case. The reason housing costs so much is limited supply coupled with high demand. There could be a 10-story 40-apartment building in place of that one shack. Place a few thousand of those strategically through Bay Area, and the price per square foot would come down big time even if the cost of land stays high. But, NIMBY. Can't reduce the "value" of all that (mostly dilapidated) real estate people already own.

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Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by sonnyblarney on Sunday January 20, 2019 @07:27PM (#18956581)

" much is limited supply coupled with high demand. "

No, it's just 'supply and demand' neither are 'high or low' necessarily.

SV has quite high wages, that's a huge driver of demand.

The residents of SV do not want to be like NY or Hong Kong, that is their choice. It's the choice many, many places make as well. Zurich, Paris, even London, they don't live in high rises.

The attractiveness of Cali in many ways is that it's not entirely flooded/urban like NYC.

There are not just arbitrary ways to create more homes, it has an effect on the situation.

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Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by WillPostForFood on Sunday January 20, 2019 @06:04PM (#18956192)

It is both. There is more money buying a relatively fixed number of homes, so price goes up. But if you could buy a piece of land with one home. And put 10 units on it, then that could be offset.

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