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Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by pascalxus on Friday January 18, 2019 @07:55PM (#18944545)
Nutrition is so much more nuanced than any of us really know. Everytime I think i know something, I learn more details and learn that there's even more to it.

Sure, Sugar can be acceptable if you use it responsibly. You can even safely consume a Soda if you're in a glycogen depleted state such as after a marathon or from 16 hours of fasting. But, do you really wanna waste you're precious calorie/sugar alotment for the day on a soda?

In any case, it's good that people are starting to think about these things, the pros and cons. Hopefully, people can learn why it's good/bad and thus enable them to make better decisions the next time they need something sweet.

On a related note, I heard Dr. Berg say, sugar craving are a sign that your body is not getting enough potassium. Evolutionarily that would make sense, since fruits are higher in potassium than almost anything else except vegetables.

Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by chiefalchemist on Friday January 18, 2019 @08:51PM (#18944766)
> "Sure, Sugar can be acceptable if you use it responsibly. You can even safely consume a Soda if you're in a glycogen depleted state such as after a marathon or from 16 hours of fasting."

Of __all__ the soda consumed what percentage would you image falls into this loop hole?

The reality is, sugar (and carbs) for many people are not consumed responsibly. And give the degree of irresponsibility, 99.9% of these people aren't running a marathon or fasting for 16 hours.

Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by other_herbert on Friday January 18, 2019 @09:41PM (#18944985)
OO I'll guess... I'll say... 0.0015%.... .. .. that also might be generous...… and that no one who has just completed a marathon or 1/2 or any portion _wants_ to drink anything other than water or maybe the saltiest flavor of Gatorade or powerade that exists... seriously after a lot of physical exertion I'd far rather see a deer salt lick and a bucket of water than an infinite vending machine of anything...
Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by will_brown on Friday January 18, 2019 @08:14PM (#18944620)
>You can even safely consume a Soda if you're in a glycogen depleted state such as after a marathon

You “could” but that will also not help, and actually hurt, with the natural inflammation from running. If you ran the marathon in ketosis, you really wouldn’t be in a “glycogen depleted State” - even though that’s what ketosis generally is - because your body and brain are primarily running on ketones and internally producing all the minimal glucose the body/brain actually require.

In either case after a marathon your muscles will be catabolic, so protein is good, and of course water/electrolytes. But really it should be telling your example of using sugar responsibly is after running a marathon.

Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by mr_toad on Friday January 18, 2019 @08:08PM (#18944593)
> But, do you really wanna waste you're precious calorie/sugar alotment for the day on a soda?

No, but 1 can (maybe 100-160 calories), isn’t close to most people’s daily calorie burn.

Sure it might push you over the limit, all other things being equal, and it doesn’t do you much good (aside from the water content), but it’s not going to kill you.

Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by james_s_tayler on Friday January 18, 2019 @08:47PM (#18944748)
My dad used to tell me this story of how when he was in his 20s he had a can of drink and he was looking away at something and as he looked back at the can to take another sip he just saw a bee crawling inside the can.

Never say never.

Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by koolba on Friday January 18, 2019 @09:01PM (#18944821)
Was he deathly allergic to bee stings?
Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by CuriousSkeptic on Saturday January 19, 2019 @06:45AM (#18946521)
I’m curious, does that assessment include the difference between glucose and fructose?

My mental model was more that pure glucose is rather safe (given healthy insuline response) while fructose should be avoided even after a 16h fast.