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Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by ikeyany on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @06:12PM (#18916600)
I attempted to do your puzzle but the link was blocked by my employer's firewall:

> URL: http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/rsa/

> Block reason: Violence/Hate/Racism

So... what exactly is loyalty.org all about?

Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by casefields on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @06:22PM (#18916693)
"www.loyalty.org itself is the server for the web site of Californians for Academic Freedom, the group I founded to oppose the California loyalty oath, which is still a non-negotiable requirement for anyone who wants to work for the State of California -- including student employees of the University of California. "

http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/

That's the most controversial thing about the page. In my view it's not a big deal to have that stance but some people don't like others who rock the boat when it comes to the status quo.

Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by schoen on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @06:43PM (#18916868)
My activism on this issue for the past decade and a half has basically consisted of corresponding for a few minutes each year with some new person who objects to signing the loyalty oath. I doubt that the site blocking has anything to do with this.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by wlll on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @08:29AM (#18920618)
I was curious about the contents and contentions points of the oath so went looking and one of the files you link to is a 404:

http://www.loyalty.org/oath.txt

Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by cogburnd02 on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @08:47AM (#18920755)
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by xkcd-sucks on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @11:45PM (#18918286)
Catch-22 should be required reading cf. "The great loyalty oath crusade"
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by schoen on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @06:41PM (#18916851)
I don't know why my web site was categorized that way by your employer's firewall.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by ikeyany on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @06:53PM (#18916948)
Thanks, I'll look into that.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by joering2 on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @12:22AM (#18918446)
Could you tell me the brand? I would like to test few sites that I believe are much worse than loyality.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by dunham on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @10:40PM (#18918059)
I'm guessing it's a false positive from using an IP similar to a sketchy site. It looks like the IP points to Linode.

For what it's worth, I enjoyed the puzzle when I completed it three years ago. A practical exercise cracking the RSA keys followed by a small classic code breaking puzzle.

Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by inciampati on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @06:16PM (#18916644)
I really doubt that shoen's page is any issue. Perhaps you can get to it in the way back machine.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by semi-extrinsic on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @07:20PM (#18917128)
My experience with these firewalls/blacklists is that they have quite a few random false positives. Requests for fixing them one-by-one seems to be a recurring theme on our company chat.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by ndnxhs on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:01AM (#18919286)
I would leave a company that used an internet blocker. They constantly get in the way of real work and benefit no one. The only valid use case I see is attempting to stop idiots downloading malware and installing it on company computers
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by semi-extrinsic on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @05:00AM (#18919549)
In more "traditional" companies that have software dev departments, they are extremely common in my experience, so switching companies wouldn't help much if you're in such a field.

If 90% of the company employees only use IE and MS Word and are actually likely to install malware, and the last 10% are software engineers/data analysts/numerical simulation people, the latter are gonna have to work within/around these types of constraints.

Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by ndnxhs on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @05:25AM (#18919648)
Part of the reason I dont work at such places. Wouldn't want to be somewhere where I am treated like an idiot.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by semi-extrinsic on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @05:37AM (#18919701)
I guess we all find different optima. To me it's not really being treated like an idiot, it's "we need to have a policy that takes into account that most of the people are idiots, you smart guys work around it if necessary".

I don't know where you work, but off-hand I would postulate that working at "such places" also has advantages over where you work (e.g. better work-life balance, living in an area where property prices are not insane, etc.). As I said, we find different optima in these tradeoffs.

Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by michaelmrose on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @01:35AM (#18918719)
On a personal device it's reasonable to use a VPN.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by acct1771 on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @02:59AM (#18919056)
On a personal device, it's reasonable to use LTE.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by michaelmrose on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:06PM (#18925254)
Not always feasible. Not everyone has a cash to spend on data and lives in an area with good wireless coverage.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by semi-extrinsic on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:52AM (#18919504)
It might be the case that some people employ VPN, or SOCKS proxies over ssh to their home computer, or similar schemes. I wouldn't know.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by KwanEsq on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @10:17PM (#18917982)
Maybe a particularly simplistic auto-categoriser mistook the few eighty-eights (88s) on the root page[0] for their use as Nazi symbolism[1]?

[0] http://www.loyalty.org/

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=88_(number)&oldid...

Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by kragen on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @03:24PM (#18924736)
For context, Seth Schoen is not only very tolerant, one of the least racist USAns I know, but also Jewish.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by croh on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @11:14PM (#18918188)
mine too interesting. which firewall do your employer use ? here it is sonicwall.
Re:An Almost-Secret Algorithm Researchers Used to Break Thou... by gtsteve on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @06:15PM (#18916634)
It appears to be a personal website; I believe it is miscategorised.