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Re:Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, an... by Spivak on Monday January 14, 2019 @02:20PM (#18905571)
It's surprising that I (for personal use) and my company (commercial use) would be willing to pay good money for the ability to run this app on-prem?

Personal data notwithstanding we have data we put in our company wiki that is simply not allowed to be hosted on cloud services without lots of red tape and compliance certifications. Offering a on-prem option, at least for us, pushes all that responsibility onto our ops team, and Notion gets paid about the same but without the hosting costs.

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Re:Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, an... by kjksf on Monday January 14, 2019 @03:20PM (#18906099)
The problem is that what you consider "good money" is probably not even close to making such a product a viable business.

Their personal plan is $4/month.

Maybe one in a few hundred people (let's say 500 for easy math) would want self-hosted version.

Are you willing to pay $2000/month for a note-taking application? I doubt it.

Not to mention the support burden of trying to figure out why something doesn't work on your self-hosted installation.

That economic reality is why on-prem, self-hosted software is almost exclusively a very expensive, enterprise software.

Companies can justify paying a few thousand a year for installation and a salary of an in-house employee to manage and maintain it.

Individuals can't.

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Re:Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, an... by Aeolun on Monday January 14, 2019 @07:55PM (#18908023)
But that’s fine. My company can easily afford a few tens of thousands per month for the on-prem version.

If the on-prem version does not exist, I’ll never even try to convince them to switch, since we aren’t going to store anything sensitive on someone elses infrastructure.

So we stick with Confluence. Which everyone hates, but is still the best solution around.

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Re:Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, an... by Spivak on Monday January 14, 2019 @04:13PM (#18906534)
I'm not sure I understand your math. The support burden is very real but why would the pricing be anything other than $premium/user/month with tiers based on support requirements?

Self-hosting nerds like myself would be able to get by on a no-support 'community edition' for like $10-15/mo.

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