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Re:Apple's famous walled garden is starting to show cracks by kerng on Sunday January 13, 2019 @11:32AM (#18897281)
I think Microsoft's Surface line is showing what computing can be about. Its lacking the one thing though that Apple is really leader, a phone.

I think Apple should look there to get some inspiration, they could easily bring that to the next level.

Its 2019 for instance and my MacBook Pro still does not have a touch screen, seriously? Which to me, coming from PC world, seems like I'm using a device from 6+ years ago. It has an interesting touchbar though. Ok.

And everything seems too expensive I feel also. I would never pay for a MacBook, my employer does.

Personally I did research end of last year and bought a Surface device and am very happy with that decision.

Re:Apple's famous walled garden is starting to show cracks by scarface74 on Sunday January 13, 2019 @11:37AM (#18897311)
The Microsoft Surface hardware is not the problem. It’s the OS. Windows tries and fails to be both a desktop OS and touch screen friendly.

I have a work Dell with a touch screen. I never use it.

I also bought a Dell 2n1 and thought that it would serve as both my computer and tablet. Windows 10 is still a horrible experience as a touch screen and the 16x9 ratio just doesn’t work.

Re:Apple's famous walled garden is starting to show cracks by pjmlp on Sunday January 13, 2019 @11:50AM (#18897370)
Still better than the 2n1 experience with either ChromeOS or any GNU/Linux variant, where one needs to rent a private cloud for any meaningful work.
Re:Apple's famous walled garden is starting to show cracks by ForHackernews on Sunday January 13, 2019 @11:34AM (#18897291)
I can't imagine every wanting a touchscreen on a laptop with a keyboard. I used to have one, and it constantly irritated me if I accidentally touched it.
Re:Apple's famous walled garden is starting to show cracks by kerng on Sunday January 13, 2019 @12:51PM (#18897732)
Reading through documents, scrolling, and especially when having discussions or jam sessions with others a touchscreen really makes a difference. It's such a natural way to interact.

I have only noticed this now with the MacBook at work which I have to use and how limiting it is not being able to touch the screen and have it do things. It seems just a natural thing.

Re:Apple's famous walled garden is starting to show cracks by wolfgke on Sunday January 13, 2019 @11:52AM (#18897386)
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I can't imagine every wanting a touchscreen on a laptop with a keyboard. I used to have one, and it constantly irritated me if I accidentally touched it.

I don't own such a device, but I can easily imagine how it could be very useful for entering handwritten notes with a stylus.