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Re:Hospitals release lists of retail prices for services by DanBC on Sunday January 13, 2019 @08:17AM (#18896559)
> For the equivalent in the UK:

> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-28983924

What do you think this means? How are you understanding this article? Because I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean what you think it means.

Are you honestly saying US insurance companies don't do exactly the same thing?

Re:Hospitals release lists of retail prices for services by jtbayly on Sunday January 13, 2019 @08:41AM (#18896634)
When the government decides it isn’t worth it, you don’t have the option of paying for it anyway if you disagree. Hence the high-profile cases of parents with money, begging the government to be allowed to take their baby someplace else willing to treat him.

Insurance companies cannot prohibit you leaving the country.

Re:Hospitals release lists of retail prices for services by ceejayoz on Sunday January 13, 2019 @10:35AM (#18897031)
> Insurance companies cannot prohibit you leaving the country.

Neither will developed-world single-payer systems, in virtually all cases. It sounds like you're referencing the Alfie Evans case, which a) was unusual enough to receive international headlines and b) involved a terminal, untreatable minor incapable of making their own decisions.

Hell, even in the UK, you can opt for private treatment - they've got a dual private/public system, as do many single-payer systems.

Re:Hospitals release lists of retail prices for services by DanBC on Monday January 14, 2019 @01:11AM (#18901027)
> you don’t have the option of paying for it anyway if you disagree.

Completely untrue in the UK. We have private healthcare alongside our NHS system. You can pay for it through insurance, or you can sell your house and pay for it in cash.

Re:Hospitals release lists of retail prices for services by DanBC on Monday January 14, 2019 @03:31AM (#18901561)
Hang on, are you talking about cases like Alfie Evans? Because that case had nothing to do with coat, and was entirely about what was in Alfie's best interests.

Doctors proposed a plan. The parents disagreed with that plan. The doctor's had to go to court to get permission to go ahead.

Contrast this with the US system. Doctors propose a plan and if the parents disagree it is them who have to go to court to stop the doctors.

Re:Hospitals release lists of retail prices for services by zeroname on Sunday January 13, 2019 @08:46AM (#18896659)
> Are you honestly saying US insurance companies don't do exactly the same thing?

I certainly don't think it's "exactly the same", but that's not my point. I just wanted you to move the goalpost from "there are no death panels" to "okay, there are death panels, but they are everywhere, potato/patata!". Kinda like this guy:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/5/8/1660050/-Death-Pan...