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Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by jwr on Saturday January 12, 2019 @12:36PM (#18892241)
The Freestyle Libre requires a prescription (why?) — is there another similar system that does not?
Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by troydavis on Saturday January 12, 2019 @01:07PM (#18892418)
No. In the US, all similar products require a prescription. This is by far the best available option (no fingerstick calibration, longest-lasting sensor, easy mobile app, etc.). Basically, get this one. It’s $80 including 1 month of sensors.

I believe the thinking is that people need a professional to discuss results with. I understand that perspective, but I don’t agree with it, and I definitely don’t agree that having someone to discuss results with should outweigh the increased access/adoption of over-the-counter sales. This is the first product that makes it practical - even easy - and completely painless for non-diabetics like me to track blood glucose informationally, so perhaps this will change. That said, the FDA has made other overly-conservative decisions, like disallowing fingerstick A1c tests (which don’t require fasting or a full venous blood draw) for first-pass screening of diabetes: http://www.onsitehealthdiagnostics.com/blog/a1c/, https://twitter.com/troyd/status/1018150306125758465.

Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by jwr on Saturday January 12, 2019 @01:42PM (#18892594)
Thanks for clarifying.

As a side note, I think this requirement is completely bogus. You should be able to get any "read-only" medical device you want, anytime you want, especially in a country where there is no universal healthcare. I see a contradiction where on one hand the authorities say: we have to protect you so that you don't harm yourself and on the other the same authorities say: your health is your responsibility and we want nothing to do with it.

Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by SpikeDad on Saturday January 12, 2019 @03:30PM (#18893122)
You need a prescription because it's a continuously attached invasive medical device. You don't need prescriptions for finger stick devices so that's the only difference between them.
Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by malkia on Sunday January 13, 2019 @02:45AM (#18895621)
"Read-only", but "mutable" in C++ const sense with slightly bloody side effects :)
Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by nknealk on Saturday January 12, 2019 @01:19PM (#18892486)
Dexcom has a similar sensor on the market that’s approved for insulin dosing decisions. I don’t know if any of the other continuous monitors have that particular feature which might be important to those who take fast insulins.
Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by pimeys on Saturday January 12, 2019 @01:39PM (#18892578)
Dexcom G5 and G6 are the best available CGM systems for type 1 diabetics. What they add over the libre is a Bluetooth transmitter over the sensor, giving values to your phone every five minutes. Used together with xDrip and AndroidAPS it can easily safe the life of a person using insulin and not waking up to a hypoglycemia, me included. Or work as a part of a closed loop system.

The problem with Dexcom is the price. A sensor should be replaced every week and costs 80€, the transmitter turns off after three months and costs between 300-400€. If you understand what you're doing, you can easily extend the sensor lifetime to 3-5 weeks and transmitter to 6-8 months.

My take to this is, every T1 deserves a Dexcom system from the insurance. It easily saves your life and makes the control much easier.

Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by zaroth on Saturday January 12, 2019 @02:15PM (#18892770)
My kids transmitters get flaky after about 3 weeks, and I didn’t think you could reset an expired sensor on the G6 the way you could with the G5?
Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by pimeys on Saturday January 12, 2019 @02:19PM (#18892796)
Should be possible with xDrip. Using the G5 still, so no real life experience.

Some sensors get noisy sooner than the others. I noticed they work longer during the winter when its cooler. Last one worked for 4 weeks quite good, but in the summer they stopped working in less than two weeks.

Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by zaroth on Saturday January 12, 2019 @05:41PM (#18893727)
I realized I wrote weeks - the transmitter is good for 3 months and gets flaky in the last couple weeks.

I found some pictures of someone replacing the battery on the transmitter of a G6. This is.... not really practical. [1]

What would be interesting is if you could pull out the internals and 3D print a new enclosure that had an actual user serviceable battery.

[1] - https://seemycgm.com/2018/07/12/g6-transmitter-battery-repla...

Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by pimeys on Sunday January 13, 2019 @07:25AM (#18896400)
The transmitter has a counter inside and will stop working after a certain day count. xDrip has a feature where one can reset the counter back to zero and I've been using them at least six months with no trouble.
Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by zaroth on Sunday January 13, 2019 @07:00PM (#18899531)
Without changing the battery? Are you using G5 or G6?
Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by tjohns on Saturday January 12, 2019 @05:48PM (#18893761)
I can understand why the sensor will expire, but why does the transmitter expire? Shouldn’t it just require changing a battery?
Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by pimeys on Saturday January 12, 2019 @09:29PM (#18894672)
Because of money. I know dentists who can change the battery. It is possible, but requires the right tools.
Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by SpikeDad on Saturday January 12, 2019 @03:36PM (#18893161)
Didn't realize that. I occasionally use a finger stick A1C to compare to my lab test and it's very accurate (within 0.2 units).

It does seem like a helpful tool to screen.

Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by beardface on Saturday January 12, 2019 @05:35PM (#18893706)
That seems a bit strange.

Here in the UK, I don't have a prescription (despite being type 1 diabetic) but occasionally self-fund the devices directly from Abbott. I get a VAT excemption so it costs ~£45 per unit, which lasts 2 weeks.

Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by playa1 on Saturday January 12, 2019 @01:01PM (#18892393)
Maybe to get insurance to cover the cost?
Re:Tracking Blood Sugar by westwooded on Saturday January 12, 2019 @03:10PM (#18893020)
If I'm not a diabetic but just want to track my blood glucose, will a doctor still prescribe me one? Will insurance balk at it? Any estimates as to final cost?