Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity

Re:Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity by yesenadam on Saturday January 12, 2019 @03:57AM (#18890376)

Someone modestly shares with you their musical tastes - To my not-very-well-trained ear - and you tell them what they say 'sounds so wrong'?! I don't think tastes can be 'wrong'. You sound like you think your tastes are reasonable and no-one else's are.

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Re:Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity by vfinn on Saturday January 12, 2019 @07:31AM (#18890908)

Hmm, it did occur to me that that phrasing could sound harsh to someone, but I didn't mean to belittle his/her opinion. Sorry about that. I tend to talk quite bluntly (as a Finn).

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Re:Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity by yesenadam on Saturday January 12, 2019 @09:28AM (#18891277)

Ok thanks, Hi from Australia. Then you didn't mind my bluntness. :-) So.. Do you have a favourite piece, or.. top 3? top 5?

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Re:Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity by vfinn on Saturday January 12, 2019 @10:18AM (#18891480)

Hello. That's an impossible task for me, so I've given up on trying to do that. I can however give you 3 of my latest favorites:

1) Bach - Passacaglia & Fugue In C Minor - BWV 582 by Karl Richter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W4PJUOeVYw

2) Vivaldi - Stabat Mater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGwvKU4_vaw

3) Bach - Piano Concerto in D Min. BWV 1052 by Polina Osetinskaya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osg_WmeLxQk

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Re:Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity by ternaryoperator on Sunday January 13, 2019 @11:53PM (#18900762)

I find Osetinskaya plays so fast that it's difficult to make out the counterpoint. Have a look/listen at Glenn Gould's version, which makes the counterpoint really clear [1]. As you might know, this interpretation was controversial at the time.

[1] https://youtu.be/9ZX_XCYokQo?t=307

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Re:Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity by vfinn on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @05:14AM (#18910077)

I know Gould (of course) and the piece, he's awesome. Still, I found Osetinskaya's play very precise, delightful, and full of emotion. I did not have any trouble with the speed. One day I prefer Gould, the other this one. It's just like that.

Funny side note: Do you know Gould's So You Want to Write a Fugue? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHW1I8T0caI

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Re:Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity by ternaryoperator on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @09:28PM (#18917806)

> One day I prefer Gould, the other this one. It's just like that.

Amen to that! I frequently rediscover interpretations upon hearing them anew, which makes me go back and listen to other versions of the same piece again. It's what I love about classical music.

I do indeed known Gould's very clever fugue.

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Re:Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity by yesenadam on Saturday January 12, 2019 @09:15AM (#18891231)

Don't be snarky.

It seems you assumed I'm the person he was replying to - I said nothing close to or even in the ballpark of 'eras are better than one another'. Every sentence of your comment was unacceptably condescending. Don't tell people on here to "relax". Or that their comments aren't interesting - just don't reply if that's the case. Thanks.

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Re:Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity by explainplease on Sunday January 13, 2019 @05:40AM (#18896111)

Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

> It seems you assumed I'm the person he was replying to

What are you talking about? He couldn't have been replying to you, because your comments were not in the ancestry of his.

> I said nothing close to or even in the ballpark of 'eras are better than one another'

You derived from my comment meaning opposite from what was plainly written?! Read more carefully.

> Every sentence of your comment was unacceptably condescending

Every sentence of yours to him was unacceptably rude.

> Don't tell people on here to "relax". Or that their comments aren't interesting - just don't reply if that's the case. Thanks.

Don't tell people on here that they sound like they think they're the only reasonable one. Just don't reply if that's the case. Thanks.

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Re:Debussy’s Radical Search for Simplicity by explainplease on Sunday January 13, 2019 @07:12AM (#18896365)

Don't be a fucking coward, downvoting and flagging when you're called out on your bullshit and can't answer for it. Shameful.

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