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Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by cyberferret on Friday January 11, 2019 @08:39PM (#18888922)
Well, rather than a "Don't come Monday" email on a weekend, which effectively gives them 0 working days notice, giving those employees say, 2 weeks notice that they will be terminated at least gives them a chance to re-train for another position or get their resumes together to try and find another job while still getting an income to pay for rent, food etc.

FAR less 'cruel' to give them an opportunity to plan their exit and give them the psychological space to get used to the fact.

EDIT: In light of the 'read the article' responses and downvotes, I wanted to clarify that my comment here is directly addressing the question "what is a less cruel way of laying people off" against the purported scenario above of people being told on Friday to go home and check their emails to see if they still have a job on Monday.

Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by mulmen on Friday January 11, 2019 @08:45PM (#18888953)
From the article: "SpaceX is offering a minimum of eight weeks’ pay and other benefits to laid-off workers, according to Shotwell’s email. The company will also provide assistance with career coaching, resume help and job searches."

So SpaceX is giving employees two months to focus their full efforts on finding their next job. This seems less cruel than telling them they will lose their jobs and then expecting them to keep working.

Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by SeanBoocock on Friday January 11, 2019 @09:00PM (#18889026)
That need not just be charity on SpaceX's part. The circumstances of the layoff sounds like it would trigger the WARN act: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraini.... If so, 60 days notice is a legal requirement, not beneficence on SpaceX's part.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by Dylan16807 on Saturday January 12, 2019 @05:21PM (#18893619)
The notice is a requirement.

Not requiring them to do any work whatsoever for that time is beneficence.

Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by cyberferret on Friday January 11, 2019 @08:51PM (#18888984)
That is FAR less cruel, and more in line with how most companies handle a genuine redundancy.

My response above was to do with the fact that employees who were NOT terminated were also subjected to the psychological trauma of spending the weekend guessing whether they had a job come Monday. Not the best way to keep morale high.

Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by FPGAhacker on Friday January 11, 2019 @08:43PM (#18888943)
This rarely happens because of liability and security. It’s pretty common to be walked out by security after packing up your stuff when you are laid off.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by hermitdev on Friday January 11, 2019 @09:08PM (#18889063)
Heh, a hedge fund I worked at didn't even let you back to your desk. You were immediately escorted out by security. "Your personal effects at your desk will be mailed to you." Suppose there were exceptions to say grab keys, wallet or a purse, but you weren't packing up everything.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by rhizome on Friday January 11, 2019 @08:55PM (#18889004)
AKA the first 10 minutes of the movie Margin Call.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by cycrutchfield on Friday January 11, 2019 @08:46PM (#18888962)
They already get 8 weeks severance. Keeping them around for 2 weeks to mope doesn’t help anything.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by fzeroracer on Friday January 11, 2019 @09:00PM (#18889033)
Except keeping people around for two weeks longer allows people to say goodbye to their coworkers and people they might've worked with for years. It allows them to impart their knowledge to anyone else that might need it, document things that need documenting and more importantly: It means the company treats you like an actual human being.

Acting like people are just gonna sit around and mope is not only highly disingenuous but is also a good way to fuck over the people having to fill in the knowledge gaps.

Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by wonderwonder on Friday January 11, 2019 @09:38PM (#18889202)
They launch giant multi million dollar missiles into space. Allowing an employee that knows they are terminated and is most likely distracted to continue working on a project like that is not worth the risk. If someone was genuinely upset and wanted revenge, a good portion of them are literally rocket scientists, they could probably figure out a way to do it if given a couple weeks.

Better just to cut ties as quickly as possible. They were given 8 weeks of severance and if they are really friends with the people, they can call them on the way home. They are not banned from communicating with their past co-workers.

I know it sounds harsh but there is no nice way to find out you were fired. This way mitigates the companies risk, provides decent (not great) severance for the employees and time to find a new job while being paid.

The only winners in a layoff are the shareholders.

Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by fzeroracer on Friday January 11, 2019 @09:46PM (#18889237)
I used to work for a government contractor and during lay-offs they rarely did the whole plug-pulling nonsense on their employees when they needed to restructure or lay people off.

So I suppose you can consider me highly skeptical when a commercial company makes the excuse that they're doing it for security reasons. Because to me, that sounds like pure bullshit designed to cover for shitty practices.

Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by wonderwonder on Friday January 11, 2019 @09:50PM (#18889256)
It's easy for me to take a pragmatic approach from the outside looking in but if I was the one getting laid off, I would probably share your sentiment.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by perl4ever on Friday January 11, 2019 @10:53PM (#18889522)
I don't know why companies do the "escort you out by security" thing, but I doubt there is a great deal of logic to it, as I have observed that even at a given company, some people are treated like that and some aren't, and there's no sense to it. It's never happened to me, but a former boss of mine was laid off that way, and nobody admitted to knowing why. Yes, he could have destroyed a lot if he'd wanted to, but so could a less senior employee.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by cycrutchfield on Friday January 11, 2019 @09:15PM (#18889109)
It's also a good way to get a disgruntled worker who still has system privileges or physical access to cause all kinds of havoc. Not worth the risk, even if you think it's more humane.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by fzeroracer on Friday January 11, 2019 @09:20PM (#18889131)
Not worth the risk? Disgruntled workers only generally arise if you treat your employees like shit and do shit like say, telling employees 'hey you might not have a job on monday but we're not telling you! we're gonna give you a weekend to think about your possible jobloss'.

I honestly hope you never work in HR because your sort of attitude is genuinely disastrous to this industry. Acting like treating your employees with respect is a 'risk' is terrible.

Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by oceliker on Friday January 11, 2019 @10:57PM (#18889541)
I agree the mail thing is not great... but you’re saying that of the 600 employees who were laid off, not a single one of them will become disgruntled if they had a good work environment? I too despise HR practices in some instances, but I’d consider them extremely incompetent if they believed in collective goodwill of 600 people who just lost their jobs. Keeping their access to sensitive systems (in a rocket company, no less!) would be opening the company up to sabotage, and HR would be fully (and rightfully) blamed for it.

Also, if I were laid off, why would I want to continue working for them for two more weeks? I don’t care about the company’s success at that point. I’m already getting two months severance; it’s much better to focus entirely on finding a job as quickly as possible. Half a month’s paycheck is not worth the emotional pain of seeing your non-laid-off colleagues continue to live their normal life, but act all awkward around you.

In fact, I’ll go ahead and say: I think your attitude that requests laid-off employees to keep working is disastrous. Nothing about making them come to work is respectful or beneficial to them.