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Re:The Painful Price of Becoming Jackie Chan by NeoBasilisk on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @06:05PM (#18869940)
>If he could do it in the situation he grew up in, anyone can.

This is a terrible mindset to have.

Re:The Painful Price of Becoming Jackie Chan by isoskeles on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @09:23PM (#18871001)
It's not as if the converse here is, "If a person doesn't succeed, then they did not deserve it." Is that the reason you have a problem with this mindset? I think of most alternatives as being fatalist / victim mentality, where you think you're an object that the universe does things to.

What mindset do you propose people have when they want to achieve something exceptionally difficult?

Re:The Painful Price of Becoming Jackie Chan by Cpoll on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @08:03PM (#18870633)
"If I can win the lottery, anyone can" indeed. Does that technically fall under survivorship bias? (Which isn't to say that Chan _just_ got lucky, just that it's a combination of luck, skill, upbringing, disposition, opportunity...)
Re:The Painful Price of Becoming Jackie Chan by grecy on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @08:39PM (#18870803)
You forgot the three most important things, which are 10,000 times more important than the ones you listed.

Hard work, hard work and hard work.

Re:The Painful Price of Becoming Jackie Chan by sirmarksalot on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @10:10PM (#18871204)
Necessary but not sufficient.
Re:The Painful Price of Becoming Jackie Chan by kkarakk on Thursday January 10, 2019 @04:16AM (#18872566)
what about jackie chan's life story screams luck and people handing him things coz he was handsome to you? literally all he did was hard work
Re:The Painful Price of Becoming Jackie Chan by MagnumOpus on Friday January 11, 2019 @06:30AM (#18882708)
The part that screams luck is that for every hard working Jackie Chan there are ten -- or more likely a hundred -- people just as talented and working just as hard, who didn't become multimillionaire A-list celebrities.

Which is why the parent poster said hard work is necessary but not sufficient.