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Re:Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete F... by zeusk on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @09:09AM (#18864754)
Google+ and ancillary Google spyware must be installed by default for playstore compatibility test suite to pass.

Is that pure android? Bloat? Crapware? Or just plain shit?

Re:Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete F... by tssva on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @11:01AM (#18865717)
Apple also ships with a bunch of their apps that I would classify as crapware but unlike on Android I can't replace them as defaults with 3rf party apps of my choosing.
Re:Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete F... by saagarjha on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @03:59PM (#18868831)
These also happen to coincide with the apps that you can't delete from your device. Apple refuses to give third-party developers access to sensitive APIs, such as those relating to the Phone app or SMS, due to the potential for abuse.
Re:Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete F... by HillaryBriss on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @11:06AM (#18865778)
I think this is a valid criticism of stock android phones -- even ones sold directly by Google. But it's a slightly different criticism than the main crapware criticism here because FB is really a 3rd party.

I really do agree with your criticism though. People worry about FB's privacy issues, but then totally overlook all of Google's builtin privacy issues.

Re:Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete F... by paulie_a on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @11:33AM (#18866041)
My pixel doesn't have google+ installed. But I can use the play store.

And I am not sure what spyware apps you are referring to.