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Re:$1T is leaving Britain because of Brexit by PunchTornado on Monday January 07, 2019 @12:38PM (#18847571)
no, Brexit is not about economics and it never was.

Brexit is about having fewer immigrants in the country.

My driving instructor was very honest with me, even if I was a foreigner. He said 50% of his students are foreigners. But he still voted for Brexit even if he knows it will make him worse off financially. He just wants fewer immigrants in the country.

Re:$1T is leaving Britain because of Brexit by dijit on Monday January 07, 2019 @12:58PM (#18847861)
I grew up in a predominantly "brown people" part of the country, I use "brown people" because there were Pakistani's, Indians and other peoples from the crown colonies.

It's worth noting that, we as a country fail to integrate those people. It's not their fault.

It's worth double-noting, that those people are not the people we're removing ourselves from. We're actually removing ourselves from those who are culturally similar enough to integrate independently.

Immigration is /going/ to happen, it's a net positive for the country, in fact it's required to sustain the country. You've just ensured that it's the "brown people" who get imported.

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Please bear in mind, I have no ill-will to anyone from those countries, but when people argue against immigration it's almost always because of the polish (which was hugely self-inflicted) or "brown people". The majority of leavers I know don't expect this outcome, they think it'll be a net decline in all immigration (including those from India, Pakistan etc;)

Re:$1T is leaving Britain because of Brexit by growlist on Monday January 07, 2019 @01:08PM (#18848001)
> it's required to sustain the country

because? If it's because we aren't fertile enough, or our education system isn't good enough, or we aren't paying enough for certain jobs, why not address this?

I'm interested to know whether you think there should be any upper limit to the population of the UK: 100m? 500m? more?

Re:$1T is leaving Britain because of Brexit by dijit on Monday January 07, 2019 @01:10PM (#18848031)
Because we have an aging population, and pensions are the single largest government expense. (more than double the NHS, which is also heavily burdened by our aging populaton)
Re:$1T is leaving Britain because of Brexit by growlist on Monday January 07, 2019 @01:24PM (#18848222)
So then why not encourage the population to breed, rather than sourcing our fertility abroad?!
Re:$1T is leaving Britain because of Brexit by JAlexoid on Monday January 07, 2019 @06:12PM (#18851270)
Because forcing people to breed isn't exactly an efficient tool.

Also - a population highly burdened with a lot of children tends to produce less value. It keeps more people out of work.

Re:$1T is leaving Britain because of Brexit by growlist on Tuesday January 08, 2019 @05:01AM (#18854511)
So let me get this straight: your position is that an ageing population can only be solved by migration?
Re:$1T is leaving Britain because of Brexit by dijit on Tuesday January 08, 2019 @01:36PM (#18858095)
Or killing of the old. Or forced breeding.

Migration is the most ethical of those.