Re:Taxpayers Should Never Subsidize Stadiums
by anonymous5133 on Saturday January 05, 2019 @06:19PM
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If SF needs housing then they can just build into oakland and use BART to get into SF. Oakland is a very underdeveloped piece of real estate.
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Re:Taxpayers Should Never Subsidize Stadiums
by arcticbull on Saturday January 05, 2019 @08:23PM
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But then... SF still wouldn't have housing, Oakland would. It's in another county. Come on, there's no reason to limit buildings to as short as they are right now. It's as if the city of SF has given up on change entirely.
Re:Taxpayers Should Never Subsidize Stadiums
by almost_usual on Saturday January 05, 2019 @09:30PM
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This is like beating a dead horse. People move to SF, complain there isn’t enough housing, do this for a few years and either leave or realize it’s not going to change. It is the way it is, it’s not changing in a year a or two. This is a generational thing that will take at least a decade if not longer to change. The End. Don’t believe me? Check this comment in five years.
Call it NIMBY call it whatever you want but there is _no_ incentive for long term SF residents (10+ years) especially home owners to support more housing, especially for tech transplants.
Re:Taxpayers Should Never Subsidize Stadiums
by L_Rahman on Saturday January 05, 2019 @10:37PM
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Their actions have a moral cost and the people who pay those costs aren't the tech transplants, they're literally every other kind of person who slowly finds themselves unable to live in a place that is just as much their home as the owners of property. Schoolteachers, firefighters, garbage truck drivers, restaurant workers, people who lost their job, people in temporary unemployment and in need of retraining.
I understand that the problem feels intractable, but it's because we treat the people make it so like something that simply is. It is not a thing that simply is, it is a moral choice made my hundreds of thousands of people over and over again and it is their failure.