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Re:iOS Menu by happybuy on Saturday January 05, 2019 @03:20AM (#18830570)
> There's no touchpad

Yet... with many of the Apple technorati asking for one and saying it's a necessary next step.

> in iOS every action is accounted for and proper permission is enforced

Yes, so this is the Mac with a more restrictive security model as referenced in the first comment. Apple is moving the macOS towards this with the Sandbox and how app extensions are structured.

Re:iOS Menu by oneeyedpigeon on Saturday January 05, 2019 @03:53AM (#18830642)
> Yes, so this is the Mac with a more restrictive security model

Maybe this is exactly why people want the changes to the iPad. They want a more powerful iPad rather than a less powerful Mac.

Re:iOS Menu by bunnycorn on Saturday January 05, 2019 @10:44AM (#18832162)
> Yet... with many of the Apple technorati asking for one and saying it's a necessary next step.

No, what I see, is people that are always coming with excuses to not buy an iPad.

"Because it can only run one application at once" -> Apple implements that feature -> "it needs a real file manager" -> Apple implements that feature, and they will come up with more excuses of "why the iPad isn't a MacBook Air".

Re:iOS Menu by coldtea on Saturday January 05, 2019 @07:53AM (#18831389)
>Yet... with many of the Apple technorati asking for one and saying it's a necessary next step.

Never read any "Apple technorati", much alone "many", asking for one.

Re:iOS Menu by exergy on Saturday January 05, 2019 @08:12AM (#18831453)
All the iPad reviews on youtube, Marques, Dave2D, the Verge...they were all crying out for a chance to fully exploit the blindingly fast A12 chip with software to match. Specifically multiple displays and mouse support.
Re:iOS Menu by bunnycorn on Tuesday January 08, 2019 @02:12AM (#18853892)
And all the examples you cited are NOT Apple technoratti.

In fact, those three (Marques, Dave2D and The Verge) are profoundly anti-Apple.

Just because they show them using MacBooks and iMacs in the background, doesn't mean anything.

Re:iOS Menu by coldtea on Saturday January 05, 2019 @08:20AM (#18831485)
So, no touchpad mentioned.
Re:iOS Menu by exergy on Saturday January 05, 2019 @08:25AM (#18831507)
Ah, sorry, did you mean a Macbook with touch capabilities? In which case Linus has shouted himself hoarse begging for MacOS to adopt touchscreens. And I agree with him.

I own a Surface. Having a touchscreen is one of those things that, for some at least, becomes a must have. For me it helps it walk the line between productivity machine and Youtube-while-cooking-dinner tablet.

Re:iOS Menu by coldtea on Saturday January 05, 2019 @08:43AM (#18831581)
Linus (for other readers: not Torvalds) is a random YouTuber, not an "Apple technoratti", which was the original claim -- that would be someone like Gruber, Jason Snell, the guys at The Loop, 9to5 Mac, Apple Insider, and so on).

Original claim: "There's no touchpad Yet... with many of the Apple technorati asking for one and saying it's a necessary next step"

Have actual "apple technoratti" asked for a touchpad? I never read one do so.

Have they asked for touchscreens? Some did, some are against.

In any case, I don't exactly see the reasoning.

iPad is criticized because it doesn't have mouse support, and the Mac is criticized because it doesn't have touch support. As if a hybrid model wont have all the problems the Surface has -- (touch not that useful when using a keyboard, and mouse-based apps not that useful with touch) --and presumably the kind of lackluster sales the Surface has compared to the iPad.

Re:iOS Menu by shaklee3 on Saturday January 05, 2019 @10:13AM (#18831995)
I don't know who those people are, so I googled. It does look like Gruber proposed a track pad:

https://daringfireball.net/2017/05/ipad_trackpad

Re:iOS Menu by coldtea on Saturday January 05, 2019 @12:30PM (#18832904)
Nice find, hadn't seen that.

Note that while he does propose one, he does it contrary to the spirit discussed here (of getting desktop OS X parity), even adding: "Even if users expect a mouse cursor when they first see the trackpad, they’ll adjust quickly when they realize it isn’t there. If they wanted a MacBook they’d be using a MacBook. By definition anyone using an iPad is not expecting it to act like a Mac."